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#retatrutide 2025-01-06

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  • gradient_greg — genuine question GI was about the same as tirzepatide for me, the difference was how fast it arrived 14:26
  • ferrous_ash — the half life supports weekly dosing and thats what ive done from the start GI was about the same as tirzepatide for me, the difference was how fast it arrived 17:14
  • spare_vial — there is no long term safety data, phase 2 and an ongoing phase 3 programme is what exists, not advice obviously 18:45
AD

held at 0.5 for 10 months and it never plateaued for me, which i cant explain

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GG

genuine question GI was about the same as tirzepatide for me, the difference was how fast it arrived

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held mine ages

BS

triple agonist, GLP-1 and GIP and glucagon. the glucagon arm is the part with no long history

AD

stepping in 0.5 increments instead of doubling is the only thing i would change if i started again

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does the energy expenditure claim show up as anything you can feel

VB

Archive lookup: gradient_greg first appears in this channel on 2024-05-24.

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AD

lost 8kg over 3 months at doses well under what the trials used, thats just me

AD

appetite suppression at 0.25 was stronger than my tirzepatide experience at a comparable point
appetite suppression at 7.5 was stronger than my tirzepatide experience at a comparable point

no long term data

FA

back after 2 months, has anything actually been published since

FA

whats the half life like, is it weekly the same way

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came off at 23 weeks because my resting rate stayed elevated and i didnt like it

FA

i log resting heart rate every morning because of this and its the one number i actually watch

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FA

the half life supports weekly dosing and thats what ive done from the start
GI was about the same as tirzepatide for me, the difference was how fast it arrived

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i was wrong to call the heart rate a non issue last year, enough people logged it that i changed my mind

LT

energy expenditure isnt something i could feel, though my sleep tracker disagreed with me

AA

anyone reconstituting 15 vials to 8 so the steps come out smaller

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SV

there is no long term safety data, phase 2 and an ongoing phase 3 programme is what exists, not advice obviously

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SV

no idea whether the heart rate settles for everyone, mine did and one log isnt data

Cited study
Triple–Hormone-Receptor Agonist Retatrutide for Obesity — A Phase 2 Trial
New England Journal of Medicine · 2023
48 weeks, dose-ranging. A Phase 2 result is not a safety record.
AA

research use only is on every vial and i treat it as exactly that, nobody here is prescribing

BS

how slow is low and slow here, four weeks a step or longer

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follow up phase 2 doses are published and theyre not far off what people here run, coincidence rather than plan

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RS

the glucagon arm is the mechanistic story for extra energy expenditure and its still a story to me
i went up too fast, got a fortnight of nothing but nausea, and dropped back two steps

BS

for the archive how long before people saw the first change at 10

RS

anyone gone above 5 and what changed
people insist on small steps because the side effects arrive faster than on the other two

RS

the heart rate thing is real enough that i mention it whenever someone asks about starting