there is no official maintenance dose. it is a thing we do because the alternative on the table was stopping, someone check my working
#maintenance 2025-11-19
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Highlights from this day
- deadspace — quarterly averages, because monthly is too noisy to read 22:29
- residual_solvent — the Q4 row is the most valuable row in this channel 22:32
- deadspace — i made it a number. crude 0-3 scale in the same sheet 22:48
- deadspace — the bot has waited nearly a year for this and i can feel the judgement 23:13
i came off for four months, put 8 back on, and came back. no drama in it, just numbers, ill dig out the number
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if you find maintenance harder than the losing part you are in the majority in this room
how much protein were people eating at maintenance compared to while losing
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im holding at 10 for maintenance and wondering whether i should be lower
i dropped from 7.5 to 5 for maintenance and held steady for fourteen months
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thats fluctuation
i set a trigger weight instead of a target. if i cross it i go up a rung. that is my entire plan
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nobody here can tell you whether to stop. we can tell you what happened to us when we did
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SELECT is the stopping one. weight came back on for most people once the drug stopped. that is the finding, not an opinion
same as a bp tablet
went back up, no regrets
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promised someone in january i would post my full maintenance log at 18 months. its 18 months
context: peak loss was -31kg, goal hit feb of the year before, and i have been fiddling ever since
quarterly averages, because monthly is too noisy to read
| Quarter | Dose | Avg weight | Drift vs goal | Notes |
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| Q1 | 2.4 mg weekly | 78.1 kg | -0.4 kg | still finishing loss |
| Q2 | 1.7 mg weekly | 78.6 kg | +0.1 kg | first step down |
| Q3 | 1.7 mg weekly | 79.4 kg | +0.9 kg | hunger back, mild |
| Q4 | 1.0 mg weekly | 81.8 kg | +3.3 kg | too far, admitted late |
| Q5 | 1.7 mg weekly | 80.2 kg | +1.7 kg | back up, slow recovery |
| Q6 | 1.7 mg weekly | 79.1 kg | +0.6 kg | settled here |
the Q4 row is the most valuable row in this channel
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yes. i went too low, told myself it was fine for about ten weeks, and it wasnt
how did you know it wasnt fine, the number or the head
the head first by weeks. food noise came back before the scale did
thats the bit i would tell anyone stepping down. the appetite signal leads the weight signal by about a month
thats consistent with basically every step-down story ive read in here
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how do you even track appetite, thats not a number
i made it a number. crude 0-3 scale in the same sheet
noise score, logged nightly
0 = didnt think about food outside meals
1 = thought about it, easy to drop
2 = thought about it repeatedly, effort to drop
3 = the old days
Q2 mean 0.6
Q3 mean 1.1
Q4 mean 2.2 <- and the weight only moved in month 3 of Q4
Q5 mean 1.3
Q6 mean 0.8maintenance-18mo.csv
548 rows · 26 KB · not retained in the public archive
548 rows. absolute menace
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the 0-3 thing is genuinely clever, im stealing it
steal it. its not clever, its just writing something down every day
what does the lifting side look like, or is that in here too
two sessions a week the entire 18 months, never three, never once a week. boring on purpose
i lost strength during the loss phase and got most of it back during maintenance, which surprised me
did you DEXA any of it
twice. start of maintenance and month 15. lean mass basically flat between the two which i will take
two scans 15 months apart on presumably the same machine is about as good as any of us manage
same machine matters more than people think, you cannot compare across sites
reminder for @deadspace (set 341 days ago): post the 18-month maintenance log. marking complete.
the bot has waited nearly a year for this and i can feel the judgement
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341 days. it never forgets
going back to appetite leading weight by a month — does that mean if my noise is creeping i should move before the scale does
for me it meant i stopped waiting for the scale to give me permission. what you do with that is yours
and log it either way. the people in this channel with 2 years of rows are the reason anyone else knows anything
next update at 24 months. someone set the bot
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already done