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#vendor-verification 2026-04-10

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  • nadia_notes — why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored 19:51
  • half_life_hal — coming back after 1 months, has the standard changed 19:53
  • factory_direct_fi — a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel 20:26
SS

how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing

RS

verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more

we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry

we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern, your mileage will differ

RR

does a good result from Medutest outweigh a bad one from Medutest

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RS

the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line

NN

i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier

NN

if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution

refresh on evidence

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somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log

who decides, the mods or the room

i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count

never for sale

what actually counts as evidence for a verification

RR

update from 24 months ago: FGP added evidence and the entry now reflects it

RR

a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all, n of 1 obviously

SS

if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score

SS

for the archive do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones

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AA

the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not

AA

a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record

for the archive has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation

what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine, thats one data point

NN

why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored

EvidenceCounts?
Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legibleyes
Independent report, no lot numberno
Supplier certificate onlyno
Screenshot of a reportno
Blinded pooled submissionyes, for the pool
A friend who said it was fineno
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AA

blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs

verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently

RR

how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor

is there a version of the log i can read chronologically

FD

a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel

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RR

two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers, take that with a pinch of salt

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RR

the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division

RS

a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited, someone check my working

RS

thin evidence

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