does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
#vendor-verification 2026-03-30
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- turnaround_tam — verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted, your mileage will differ 12:53
- meal_prep_mick — a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both 13:07
- split_the_cost — verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently 16:55
thin evidence
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while im here why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine
how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
does a good result from PeptideMeter outweigh a bad one from VendorInvestigate
never for sale
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted, your mileage will differ
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sorry to jump in if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
how many independent results does a supplier need
the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now
a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
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how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
coming back after 7 months, has the standard changed
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones
post the photos
nothing gets deleted
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record, n of 1 obviously
is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable
how does a supplier get verification revoked
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
thats not evidence
has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
thats evidence
update from 14 months ago: SWB added evidence and the entry now reflects it, anyway
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
blinded is better
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pattern not one result
is there a version of the log i can read chronologically
follow up we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine, for what its worth
log it either way, your mileage will differ
lot number or nothing
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
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revoked stays in the log
two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
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nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes, ask me again in a month
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verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
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update on the earlier thing does QSC being verified mean my vial is fine
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verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
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has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
Reminder for split_the_cost: dose day is today. Set 4 days ago.
both numbers go in, we shall see
what actually counts as evidence for a verification
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follow up the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
post the photos
thats evidence
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the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division