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#vendor-verification 2026-02-07

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  • LC_MS_Lena — a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel 18:25
  • sol_sends — somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log 20:11
  • LC_MS_Lena — how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing 22:00
SS

verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently

blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs

thats not evidence

SS

a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all, from memory

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SS

what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises, n of 1 obviously

thin evidence

VI

a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record

CP

we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry

is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation

TT

the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not

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VI

two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers, anyway

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CP

thats evidence

EvidenceCounts?
Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legibleyes
Independent report, no lot numberno
Supplier certificate onlyno
Screenshot of a reportno
Blinded pooled submissionyes, for the pool
A friend who said it was fineno
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nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes

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the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division

RO

if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score

VI

sorry to jump in somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log

verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more

RO

the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line

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what actually counts as evidence for a verification

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RO

two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers

RO

if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution

LM

a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited, someone check my working

LM

i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier

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a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both

log it either way, not advice obviously

GB

verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted, not advice obviously

slightly off topic but update from 15 months ago: QST added evidence and the entry now reflects it

LM

i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count

VB

Verification log updated: GL Biochem — evidence added, status unchanged.

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SS

unrelated but what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine

SS

if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution

somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log

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LM

how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing

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