revoked stays in the log
#vendor-verification 2025-09-17
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- apnoea_down_two — does TFC being verified mean my vial is fine 22:00
- apnoea_down_two — does a good result from PeptideMeter outweigh a bad one from VendorInvestigate 22:21
- apnoea_down_two — the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now 22:27
- blind_submit — we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern, anyway a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post… 22:47
- evidence_or_not — do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones 22:57
both numbers go in
is there a version of the log i can read chronologically
is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable
thats not evidence
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
log it either way
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is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation
does TFC being verified mean my vial is fine
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slightly off topic but does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
thin evidence
while im here a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited, still working it out
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
how many independent results does a supplier need
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
post the photos
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pattern not one result
does a good result from PeptideMeter outweigh a bad one from VendorInvestigate
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how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now
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*Medutest not the other one
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel, n of 1 obviously
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
lot number or nothing
what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern, anyway
a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
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has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
coming back after 8 months, has the standard changed
do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones
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i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
update on the earlier thing why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored
unrelated but update from 23 months ago: FGP added evidence and the entry now reflects it
two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
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what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine, still working it out
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if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
thats evidence
never for sale
while im here somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
update on the earlier thing a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all, ill dig out the number