sorry to jump in somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
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#vendor-verification 2025-09-16
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Highlights from this day
- coa_or_cope — how many independent results does a supplier need what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises 18:20
- coa_or_cope — a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel 18:41
- relabel_watch — the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has… 19:19
- gradient_greg — a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record 19:55
- VialBot — Assay note: SSA lot KP-0925 reported at 96.8% of label content. 20:17
how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
how many independent results does a supplier need
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
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update on the earlier thing the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now
how does a supplier get verification revoked
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
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right so does a good result from Medutest outweigh a bad one from VendorInvestigate
for the archive how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
what actually counts as evidence for a verification
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follow up does ERP being verified mean my vial is fine
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
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thin evidence
has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
sorry to jump in has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
blinded is better
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refresh on evidence
lot number or nothing
update from 3 months ago: SWB added evidence and the entry now reflects it
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
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is there a version of the log i can read chronologically
Assay note: SSA lot KP-0925 reported at 96.8% of label content.
thats not evidence
unrelated but i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
nothing gets deleted
quick one verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
coming back after 24 months, has the standard changed
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
log it either way
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what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable
if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
never for sale
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution, still working it out
both numbers go in
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