nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
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#vendor-verification 2024-11-02
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Highlights from this day
- relabel_watch — nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes 17:17
- amylin_amy — sorry to jump in update from 19 months ago: TFC added evidence and the entry now reflects it 17:31
- maintenance_mo — blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs 18:02
- ferrous_ash — does KP being verified mean my vial is fine 19:28
- quiet.hours — slightly off topic but somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log 20:15
sorry to jump in update from 19 months ago: TFC added evidence and the entry now reflects it
how many independent results does a supplier need
for the archive a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
*Medutest not the other one
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
*PeptideMeter not the other one
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
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revoked stays in the log
quick one we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
[edited]the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
refresh on evidence
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nothing gets deleted
does a good result from PeptideMeter outweigh a bad one from Janoshik
i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier
does KP being verified mean my vial is fine
i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count
pattern not one result
two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
slightly off topic but somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
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lot number or nothing
| Evidence | Counts? |
|---|---|
| Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legible | yes |
| Independent report, no lot number | no |
| Supplier certificate only | no |
| Screenshot of a report | no |
| Blinded pooled submission | yes, for the pool |
| A friend who said it was fine | no |
20:27ferrous_ash pinned a message
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones
both numbers go in
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine, still working it out
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