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#tirzepatide 2026-04-07

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Highlights from this day
  • peak_split — if youre coming off semaglutide the honest answer is start low and find out, theres no table 20:11
  • steady_state_sue — changed my mind about needing 15, i was chasing a number rather than an outcome 20:23
  • gip_glp_gil — 5 was where i first noticed it properly, 2.5 did almost nothing for me, thats one data point 21:07
  • blank_run — SURMOUNT was the weight programme and SURPASS was diabetes, thats the split people mix up 22:23
PS

40 units of a 4 solution is a lot of volume and i check that one twice every single time

why does everyone talk about 7.5 and not 10

PS

if youre coming off semaglutide the honest answer is start low and find out, theres no table

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did anyone find the GI easier than semaglutide at an equivalent effect

right so at 2.5 my appetite went completely and i dropped back a step, eating nothing isnt a win

SS

changed my mind about needing 15, i was chasing a number rather than an outcome

wk 1-4    2.5mg
wk 5-8    5.0mg
wk 9-20   7.5mg   <- stayed here
wk 21-24  10.0mg  (no extra benefit for me)
wk 25+    7.5mg   (came back down)
GG

i log everything and my appetite curve looks flatter across the week than my semaglutide log did

SS

dual agonist, GIP as well as GLP-1, thats the whole difference in one line

Cited study
Tirzepatide for Obstructive Sleep Apnea and Obesity (SURMOUNT-OSA)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2024
AHI as the primary endpoint, with and without PAP therapy.
SS

how long before the dual thing was noticeable to you

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update on the earlier thing i argued the sweet spot was nonsense and then spent 21 months at 7.5 not needing more

GG

whats the plateau pattern here, same as semaglutide or different

SS

licensed top is 15 weekly, past that is not a licensed dose and nobody here can tell you what it does, ill dig out the number

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quick one coming off semaglutide, is there a conversion or do i restart at 2.5

SD

follow up i sat at 7.5 for 22 months and never needed more, which is where the folklore comes from

GG

5 was where i first noticed it properly, 2.5 did almost nothing for me, thats one data point

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
GG

held 10 for 8 months and lost 25kg over that stretch, slow and boring and fine
the 2.5 to 5 step was the roughest one for me and everything after was easier

5 did nothing

does the appetite effect feel different or just stronger

TO

there is no clean conversion between the two, anyone giving you a ratio is guessing

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TO

i went to 15 and came back to 10, more suppression wasnt more useful for me

GG

went back to semaglutide after 15 months because the cost difference mattered more than the GI

TO

is SURMOUNT-OSA the sleep apnoea one
the sweet spot argument is really about effect per side effect, not a magic number

while im here the sweet spot argument is really about effect per side effect, not a magic number, we shall see

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BR

SURMOUNT was the weight programme and SURPASS was diabetes, thats the split people mix up

Cited study
Tirzepatide Once Weekly for the Treatment of Obesity (SURMOUNT-1)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2022
72 weeks, tirzepatide 5, 10 and 15mg against placebo.
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SURMOUNT is weight

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TO

genuine question my Janoshik result on a JEEP vial came in at 99 which is why i keep buying from them, happy to be corrected