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#tirzepatide 2024-05-15

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  • vialkeeper — is 7.5 really the sweet spot or is that just channel folklore 10:32
  • gradient_greg — the trials titrated every four weeks to a target, most people here stop at whatever works, i have it written down somewhere 11:28
  • coa_or_cope — 5 was where i first noticed it properly, 2.5 did almost nothing for me, ill dig out the number 11:29
  • noct.titrate — at 15 the GI came back for me, so my easier profile claim only applies below that SURMOUNT-OSA was the sleep apnoea trial and it is not a weight headline however its… 13:32
  • cold_chain_cmdr — how long before the dual thing was noticeable to you the sweet spot argument is really about effect per side effect, not a magic number 13:40
VI

is 7.5 really the sweet spot or is that just channel folklore

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NT

im at 2 and thinking about 12, did anyone gain anything from that step

5 did nothing

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VI

i sat at 7.5 for 13 months and never needed more, which is where the folklore comes from, thats one data point

GIP plus GLP-1

anyone tracked whether the GI difference held at the top doses

GG

the switch felt like a step down at first and then caught up around week 24

the trials titrated every four weeks to a target, most people here stop at whatever works, i have it written down somewhere

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CO

the two compounds arent interchangeable week for week even if the effect ends up similar

GG

follow up the GI difference held for me right up to 15, which isnt what a couple of people here found

the sweet spot argument is really about effect per side effect, not a magic number, anyway

NT

at 15 the GI came back for me, so my easier profile claim only applies below that
SURMOUNT-OSA was the sleep apnoea trial and it is not a weight headline however its quoted

Cited study
Continued Treatment with Tirzepatide for Maintenance of Weight Reduction (SURMOUNT-4)
JAMA · 2024
Randomised withdrawal after a 36-week lead-in. Pairs with STEP 4.
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LM

the sweet spot thing is survivorship, the people it worked for stayed and said so

SURMOUNT was the weight programme and SURPASS was diabetes, thats the split people mix up

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how long before the dual thing was noticeable to you
the sweet spot argument is really about effect per side effect, not a magic number

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there is no clean conversion between the two, anyone giving you a ratio is guessing