a single sample tells you about a single vial. that is genuinely all it tells you
#test-results 2026-04-19
- area_percent — side by side, and please tell me which one to believe 11:30
- lot_number_lou — this is the single best example we have of why 0.8 points is not a discrepancy 12:26
- lot_number_lou — which was the right thing to do and we still lost the money 15:27
- lot_number_lou — the archive holds pairs, not means. that has been the rule since the first split 16:42
which lab
unrelated but is quantity testing available as a separate thing or bundled
slightly off topic but i told QST about a result they would not have liked and they did not argue. credit where it is due
the widest spread in my data is about 2.6 percentage points across five lots from one supplier
test it again
does anyone log the negative results, the boring ones
a point or two between the certificate and an independent result is inside what two labs disagree by
anyone tested the same lot twice at different labs
a result without a lot number and a purchase date is an anecdote with a pdf attached
how much does sample handling on my end affect the number
the honest limits: hobby chain of custody is weak and any result here should be read with that in mind
sample handling on your end absolutely affects it. draw cleanly, ship fast, do not let it sit warm
weigh the vial before you reconstitute. it costs nothing and catches the common failure
selection bias
update from 6 months ago: retested the same supplier, result came back better, logged both
one bad test does not condemn a supplier. one good test does not clear one. both halves get ignored equally
certificate said 99.2 and the independent came back 98.6, is that a problem
both back. same vial, split into two, posted the same day in one envelope to two labs
side by side, and please tell me which one to believe
| Measure | Lab A (Janoshik) | Lab B (Medutest) | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| HPLC purity | 99.1% | 98.3% | 0.8 points |
| largest single impurity | 0.42% | 0.61% | 0.19 points |
| impurities reported | 3 | 5 | 2 more |
| content vs 10 mg label | 9.62 mg | 9.55 mg | 0.07 mg |
| reporting threshold | 0.10% | 0.05% | — |
| detection wavelength | 214 nm | 220 nm | — |
so which one is right
both. and the table already explains itself if you read the bottom two rows
the threshold?
lab B reports down to 0.05% and lab A stops at 0.10%.
so lab B counted two extra small peaks that lab A folded into the baseline.
those two peaks came out of the main peak, which is why B reports lower purity.
nothing disagrees. they made different reporting choices and both documented them
this is the single best example we have of why 0.8 points is not a discrepancy
and note the content figures are 0.07mg apart, which is essentially perfect agreement. quantity travels between labs better than purity does
why is that
because quantity is measured against a standard and the answer is a mass, and mass does not care about your integration baseline. purity is a ratio of areas and areas are full of judgement calls
which is a good argument for buying content tests over purity tests, incidentally
that has been my position for a year and nobody listens because purity is the number vendors advertise
inter-lab diff — sample SWB-25-1104 (split): purity 99.1% vs 98.3% (Δ 0.8) · content 9.62 mg vs 9.55 mg (Δ 0.07) · flag: within expected inter-lab range
the bot has a range built in?
one to two points on purity, and it is a convention we picked, not a measured tolerance. it is there to stop people panicking
and if a split came back four points apart the flag would fire and we would go and read both chromatograms properly
has that ever happened
once, on a TFC sample in 2025. 99.4 and 94.9
and the resolution was?
one half had been decanted into a tube that had previously held something else. the submitter admitted it and withdrew the result
which was the right thing to do and we still lost the money
so a big disagreement is usually us and not the labs
in every case we have chased, yes. the labs have not been the problem once
*not once that we could demonstrate. i would not claim more than that
fair correction
so what do i file for this vial
file both numbers, both thresholds, both wavelengths, and do not average them
why not average
because averaging two different measurements of two different things creates a number that neither lab would sign. keep them side by side
the archive holds pairs, not means. that has been the rule since the first split
and the Saber split we have pending will be the fourth pair on file, so slowly we are building something
worth the extra postage honestly
it is the most informative money this channel spends