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#semaglutide 2025-04-20

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  • lean_mass_lex — if youre comparing brand to compounded, dose accuracy in the vial is the variable, not the molecule 23:11
  • alcohol_hits — restarted after 14 months off at a low dose and the nausea arrived exactly like the first time 23:25
  • alcohol_hits — compounded and brand felt the same to me at 5, which is one person and nothing more 23:27
FT

unrelated but i stayed on 1.7 for 11 months and never went to 2.4, appetite was already where i needed it, happy to be corrected

MS

my VendorInvestigate report on the Homopeptide vial came back 97.4 against a certificate saying 99

dose day is sunday for me only because thats when i remember, not because sunday matters

is there a reason to hold at 1.7 rather than going to 2.4

went to 2.4 and the extra suppression wasnt worth the GI for me, so i came back down, i think

FM

licensed ceiling for weight is 2.4 weekly, anything above that is not a licensed dose

slower worked better

i held at 5 for 2 months and it was the best decision i made

MS

half life is about a week so youre roughly four to five weeks to steady state on any new dose

same dose day

A1

my 30 vial in 1ml gives 2.5mg/ml so 2.5 lands on 8 units, thats why i picked that volume, thats just me

LM

$94 a month for compounded against what brand costs locally is why most people here use vials

whats the actual licensed ceiling, i keep seeing different numbers

while im here going slow cost me nothing except time and saved me two bad weeks, thats my whole contribution

seven days ish

steady state takes weeks

A1

held at 0.25 and lost 78lb over 19 months, slower than the trials and fine by me

SELECT was cardiovascular outcomes in people with overweight and existing disease, not a weight trial

the plateau hit me at 24 weeks and moved again about a month later without a dose change

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MS

unrelated but changed my mind on the four week rule, i think it depends entirely on how the current dose feels, thats one data point

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is 2.4 the top or do people go past it

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IT

the trials titrated on a fixed schedule, most people here dont, worth remembering when comparing

MS

lost about 31kg on the low doses before i even got to 1, which surprised me

STEP is several trials, so saying STEP said x is usually wrong without a number after it

was SURPASS-2 the one that ran to 68 weeks or am i mixing them up

plateaus move

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LM

if youre comparing brand to compounded, dose accuracy in the vial is the variable, not the molecule

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SS

the appetite effect faded for me around 15 months and going up fixed it for a while

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did anybody find a difference between FGP and pharmacy at the same 0.25

AH

quick one is the plateau usually appetite coming back or just the scale stopping

i dont think the plateau is a dose problem most of the time, but i cant prove that

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restarted after 14 months off at a low dose and the nausea arrived exactly like the first time

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
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compounded and brand felt the same to me at 5, which is one person and nothing more

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im at 0.5 and stuck, did anyone break a plateau without going up

VB

Digest for the week of 2024-12-02 has been published.

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MS

my plateau was the scale stopping while appetite stayed suppressed, which is a different problem

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MS

the long half life flattens the trough more than people expect, i never felt a day seven dip
steady state is the bit people skip, judging a new dose after eight days tells you almost nothing

AH

five week steps worked better for me than four, purely on how the second week felt

AH

went 1 to 1.7 too fast and spent two weeks regretting it, dropped back and repeated the step