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#retatrutide 2026-01-30

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  • adelaide_assay — is the glucagon arm what people mean by the energy expenditure thing 15:53
  • VialBot — Inter-lab diff for lot C-4402: 97.4% vs 99%. Within expected range. 17:03
  • nordic_price_nils — anyone compared their Janoshik purity across two different QST lots 17:22
  • VialBot — Reminder for lot_number_lou: dose day is today. Set 5 days ago. 19:09
  • cass_cagri — Janoshik came back 99.4 on one lot and 98.1 on the next from the same BCH, both fine 19:22
AA

the glucagon arm is the mechanistic story for extra energy expenditure and its still a story to me
the heart rate thing is real enough that i mention it whenever someone asks about starting

is the glucagon arm what people mean by the energy expenditure thing

baseline  58
wk 2      61
wk 4      64
wk 6      67
wk 8      66
wk 10     65   (held dose from wk 7)

held mine ages

settled by month three

VL

came off at 9 weeks because my resting rate stayed elevated and i didnt like it
the honest position is this has less human evidence behind it than anything else discussed here

AA

phase 2 was still trending at the end which is why the phase 3 readout matters more than usual

AA

the phase 2 weight result was larger than what the earlier agonists reported, in a smaller shorter trial

coming back to this no idea whether the heart rate settles for everyone, mine did and one log isnt data

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triple agonist meaning GLP-1, GIP and glucagon, have i got that right

did the phase 2 result actually come in higher than the tirzepatide numbers

*Medutest not the other one

TRIUMPH is phase 3

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energy expenditure isnt something i could feel, though my sleep tracker disagreed with me

MN

TRIUMPH is the phase 3 programme, thats the name to search rather than the molecule

VL

my resting heart rate is up about 8 bpm, did that settle for anyone

VB

Inter-lab diff for lot C-4402: 97.4% vs 99%. Within expected range.

VL

the honest position is this has less human evidence behind it than anything else discussed here, someone check my working

is TRIUMPH the phase 3 programme

whats the half life like, is it weekly the same way

whats a sensible starting point, im seeing everything from 0.5 to 2

LN

i said 5 months ago that my heart rate had settled and it has stayed settled since

LN

there is no long term safety data, phase 2 and an ongoing phase 3 programme is what exists

VB

Reminder for lot_number_lou: dose day is today. Set 5 days ago.

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CC

lost 20kg over 24 months at doses well under what the trials used, still working it out

Janoshik came back 99.4 on one lot and 98.1 on the next from the same BCH, both fine

VL

people insist on small steps because the side effects arrive faster than on the other two

VL

blood pressure stayed flat for me while heart rate moved, which i didnt expect