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#hplc-massspec 2025-03-21

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  • font_forensics — monoisotopic and average diverge more the bigger the molecule. say which one you are quoting 11:17
  • font_forensics — deamidation is about plus 0.98 Da. it is not a rounding error, it is a degradant 11:18
  • forty_units — sorry to jump in truncations show as a mass deficit matching one or more residues. you need the sequence to say which 11:42
  • forty_units — the honest position is that hobby-level interpretation of a chromatogram is worth something but not much, happy to be corrected 13:33
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monoisotopic and average diverge more the bigger the molecule. say which one you are quoting

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deamidation is about plus 0.98 Da. it is not a rounding error, it is a degradant

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VV

tirzepatide is about 4813.5 Da, so 2+ is near 2407.8 and 3+ near 1605.5

if the number you are staring at is a third of what you expected, do the charge state arithmetic before you panic

has anyone ever had a result where the mass was right and the purity was wrong

nobody runs enough blanks, including me

if the lab reports area percent without stating the wavelength, the number is less useful than it looks

how do you spot a deletion in a sequence from mass alone

integration choices move the number by a few tenths easily. that is most of your inter-lab variance

RO

why do two labs integrate the same peak differently

FU

sorry to jump in truncations show as a mass deficit matching one or more residues. you need the sequence to say which

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MM

my peak has a shoulder on it, what does that usually mean

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RO

how much sample does a lab actually need for identity as well as purity

i was wrong about tailing factor. it is usually the injection or the pH, not the column

you need more sample for identity than for purity. plan for that when you post it

shallow gradient

a warm transit can put a visible degradant peak on a chromatogram. that is what 6 days at ambient does

HH

a dimer usually shows up late and at roughly double the mass. the chromatogram alone will not tell you

MP

coming back to this a certificate with a number and no chromatogram is asking you to trust the integration you cannot see

thats a charge state

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RO

i have had a lot where the mass was exactly right and the purity was 96.8. wrong question, right answer

update from 23 months ago: switched to asking for the chromatogram rather than the number and it changed everything

FU

ms/ms sequencing is the only thing i would call identity. everything else is circumstantial, ask me again in a month

update on the earlier thing i asked VendorInvestigate for the raw trace and they sent it. that is the right answer to that question

the honest position is that hobby-level interpretation of a chromatogram is worth something but not much, happy to be corrected

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