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#dosing-titration 2026-06-19

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  • step_one_sian — plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data 20:22
  • step_one_sian — update from 21 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly 20:23
  • sedge_sources — i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything 20:42
  • two_four_ceiling — you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten, ill dig out the number 21:01
  • truncation_tru — for the archive split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all 21:36

holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months

EA

i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else

do you tell your prescriber you held or do you just hold

MP

for the archive how do you tell a plateau from just being at your set point

TN

update on the earlier thing has anyone gone up and then straight back down and been glad they tried

EA

genuine question small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

EA

how much does the last dose still matter 2 days later

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance

two weeks is nothing

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MP

right so is there a trial anywhere that studied twice weekly, or is it all anecdote

MP

the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial

MP

the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess, ill dig out the number
after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice

SO

i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log, someone check my working

SO

plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data

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update from 21 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly

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TT

i went from 1 to 0.5 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite

TT

slightly off topic but the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied

if i hold at 0.5 indefinitely am i losing anything

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics, anyway

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SS

i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything

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SS

if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet

dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it

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SO

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice

TF

you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten, ill dig out the number

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TT

appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing

for the archive split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all

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held for months

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what does the room think about jumping a rung to catch up

TT

coming back to this a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored

the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone, for what its worth

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is there a point where going up stops buying you anything

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