do you tell your prescriber you held or do you just hold
#dosing-titration 2026-05-22
- protein_floor — the schedule comes from a trial that had to standardise. you are one person 19:36
- protein_floor — the grid. it is not complicated, people just want permission to hold 19:50
- assay_not_purity — and a reminder that the outcome you care about might not be the scale. this one was breathing 20:57
no trial for that
two weeks is nothing
while im here how long did you hold at 15 before you moved up
anyone here split their weekly into two and would they do it again
after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice
small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience
thats noise
i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it
n of 1
holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months
after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice
right so the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess
not advice
for the archive update from 7 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly
i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on
end of week thing
came down from a treatment dose to maintenance over about three months and it was uneventful, i could be wrong
steady state is 5 weeks
update question: did anyone who held for 6 months regret it
i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on
i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else
came down, no regrets
does a missed week reset anything or do you just carry on
week 8. losing steadily but day 2 nausea is still rough. do i go up or hold
if you are still losing, why would you go up
because the schedule says 8 weeks
the schedule comes from a trial that had to standardise. you are one person
i went up because the calendar said so, felt awful for three weeks, and lost less than the month before
dose is a lever for effect. if you already have the effect you wanted, there is nothing left to buy
so what is the actual rule
the grid. it is not complicated, people just want permission to hold
| Situation | What most people here do |
|---|---|
| losing, tolerable | hold. no reason to move |
| losing, side effects rough | hold, and fix the side effect first |
| flat 3+ weeks, tolerable | consider one step up |
| flat, side effects rough | fix tolerability before touching the dose |
| gaining, no appetite effect at all | step up, or ask whether the vial is what you think it is |
that last row is doing a lot of work
it is. a total absence of appetite effect at a real dose is one of the ways underfilled vials get noticed
#test-results is full of exactly that
and #vendor-verification before you buy, not after
holding then
hold, and give it four weeks rather than one
reminder set — @first_month_fi review dose 2026-08-27 (4 weeks). current plan: hold.
the bot is my accountability partner now
the other thing is dose-day drift. i started on saturdays and now i inject whenever i remember
that is how a weekly drug becomes a nine day drug and your side effects start looking random
the trough matters. stretch to nine or ten days and hunger comes back, and then people blame the dose
which is what i did. blamed the dose, went up, felt terrible
and the fix was a calendar, not a bigger number
how strict is strict
same day, and roughly the same time of day if you can manage it. a few hours does not matter, two days does
i moved mine from saturday to thursday once. did it as a one day shift over two weeks rather than in one jump
that is the polite way to do it
why thursday
so the bad day lands on a saturday
and a reminder that the outcome you care about might not be the scale. this one was breathing
i do snore less already, my partner noticed before i did
half the people in #wins are there for something that was not weight
and none of this is a prescription. hold, escalate or stop is a decision with whoever prescribes for you
answering my own question — held for four weeks, still losing, and day 2 is now just a quiet day
the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone
do you escalate on the calendar or on how you feel
if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics
hold
the people who do best here are almost always the ones going slowest, someone check my working
with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose
for the archive is week 7 too early to be thinking about the next step
i went from 2.4 to 10 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite