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#dosing-titration 2025-12-04

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  • nausea_window — coming down from 2.5 to 0.25, how bad is the appetite rebound 09:27
  • tokyo_taper — the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied 10:57
  • nausea_window — has anyone gone up and then straight back down and been glad they tried 11:39
NW

slightly off topic but is week 5 too early to be thinking about the next step

held for months

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coming down from 2.5 to 0.25, how bad is the appetite rebound

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HH

sorry to jump in appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing

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NW

the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess

HH

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

HH

unrelated but dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it

TT

holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months

with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose

how long did you hold at 1.7 before you moved up

the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied

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end of week thing

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AA

unrelated but how do you decide between holding and stepping when both feel wrong

UD

the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial

i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on
the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess

if the current dose is still working, going up is spending headroom you might want later

what does the room think about jumping a rung to catch up

coming back to this i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else

has anyone gone up and then straight back down and been glad they tried

Cited study
Effect of Continued Weekly Semaglutide vs Placebo on Weight Loss Maintenance (STEP 4)
JAMA · 2021
The withdrawal arm. This is the trial to read before you plan to stop.
UD

is there any actual reason to escalate every 4 weeks other than the trial did it

pick a day and stick to it

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often, i have it written down somewhere

anyone tracked whether a smaller more frequent dose changed their side effects

PP

i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log

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AA

i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat

i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it

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my titration ladder took 12 months to climb and i would do it slower again, take that with a pinch of salt

nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected
small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten

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TA

i went from 0.25 to 2 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite

if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet

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PP

update from 19 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly

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