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#dosing-titration 2025-11-01

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  • appetite_back — if i took it 6 days late do i shift the schedule or go back to the old day 15:47
  • VialBot — Inter-lab diff for lot E-2205: 98.6% vs 99.4%. Within expected range. 16:57
  • rezept_rolf — holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months 17:52
SD

the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess

how do you decide between holding and stepping when both feel wrong

VV

the people who do best here are almost always the ones going slowest

SD

i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat

no trial for that

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steady state is 5 weeks

thats anecdote

GG

while im here nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected

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my titration ladder took 7 months to climb and i would do it slower again

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GG

has anyone gone up and then straight back down and been glad they tried

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AB

with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose

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if i took it 6 days late do i shift the schedule or go back to the old day

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TT

i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on

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TT

update from 18 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly

whats a sensible maintenance dose after a year at treatment dose

end of week thing

MM

the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied

RS

i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything, not advice obviously

MM

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all

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do you tell your prescriber you held or do you just hold

RS

i went from 1.7 to 0.5 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite

RR

came down from a treatment dose to maintenance over about three months and it was uneventful

does a missed week reset anything or do you just carry on

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TE

dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it, happy to be corrected

VB

Inter-lab diff for lot E-2205: 98.6% vs 99.4%. Within expected range.

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TE

coming back to this how long did you hold at 2 before you moved up

RR

update question: did anyone who held for 24 months regret it

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quick one after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice

i went up too fast and im paying for it, do i drop back or ride it out

go slower

my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step

Cited study
Triple–Hormone-Receptor Agonist Retatrutide for Obesity — A Phase 2 Trial
New England Journal of Medicine · 2023
48 weeks, dose-ranging. A Phase 2 result is not a safety record.
RR

holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months

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RR

while im here is there a trial anywhere that studied twice weekly, or is it all anecdote
dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it

LT

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often

VV

i would hold

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LT

right so my dose day has drifted 5 days later over 3 months, does it matter
stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often

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FT

if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise

FT

plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data

VV

you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten

TE

update on the earlier thing coming down from 1 to 2.4, how bad is the appetite rebound

SD

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

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