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#dosing-titration 2025-09-30

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  • pia_plateaus — is there any actual reason to escalate every 4 weeks other than the trial did it 11:10
  • non_scale_win — if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics 13:13
  • non_scale_win — whats a sensible maintenance dose after a year at treatment dose 14:25
VV

holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months

RS

the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone, i have it written down somewhere

RS

if i took it 2 days late do i shift the schedule or go back to the old day

coming back to this i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything, still working it out

VV

dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it, anyway

RS

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often

BS

my dose day has drifted 2 days later over 6 months, does it matter

PP

with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose

BS

i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat

PP

i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log

PP

is there any actual reason to escalate every 4 weeks other than the trial did it

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a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored

BS

not advice

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RS

my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step, we shall see

VB

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plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data

BS

i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else

i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on

BS

my titration ladder took 13 months to climb and i would do it slower again, ymmv

KF

nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice

NS

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

Cited study
Semaglutide vs Liraglutide for Weight Loss in Adults with Overweight or Obesity (STEP 8)
JAMA · 2022
Weekly against daily, head to head.
NS

whats your rule for when a side effect means hold rather than push

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whats a sensible maintenance dose after a year at treatment dose

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PP

sorry to jump in whats the smallest step anyone has managed between doses

i went up too fast and im paying for it, do i drop back or ride it out

update from 7 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly, not advice obviously

NS

anyone tracked whether a smaller more frequent dose changed their side effects

PP

i have been at 1.7 for 14 months and honestly i have stopped wanting to move
small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise, i think

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update question: did anyone who held for 26 months regret it

AA

came down from a treatment dose to maintenance over about three months and it was uneventful

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AA

right so small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

i would hold

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