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#dosing-titration 2024-11-28

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  • vial_ledger — i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log 16:08
  • vial_ledger — i went up too fast and im paying for it, do i drop back or ride it out 16:36
  • triple_ag_tom — follow up you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten 18:57
VL

i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
U1

i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything

VL

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all

i went up too fast and im paying for it, do i drop back or ride it out

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how do you tell a plateau from just being at your set point

VL

i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat

the people who do best here are almost always the ones going slowest, thats just me

SB

small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

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LN

holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months

LN

how long did you hold at 2 before you moved up

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
SB

nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected

TA

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often, n of 1 obviously

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does a missed week reset anything or do you just carry on

LN

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

VL

anyone tracked whether a smaller more frequent dose changed their side effects

TA

i have been at 1.7 for 16 months and honestly i have stopped wanting to move

coming down from 1.7 to 0.25, how bad is the appetite rebound

VL

i went from 5 to 0.5 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite

i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on

not advice

came down, no regrets

end of week thing

how much does the last dose still matter 9 days later

follow up you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten

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the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone

HL

if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise

VL

plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data

VL

appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing