lot number or nothing
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#vendor-verification 2026-06-04
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- lot_number_lou — somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log 19:28
- kelp_keeps — how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing 19:40
- lot_number_lou — genuine question if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution 20:14
- split_the_cost — verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted 21:08
- VialBot — On this day 7 years ago this channel logged 65 messages. 22:21
has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
right so how does a supplier get verification revoked
revoked stays in the log
how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
both numbers go in
update on the earlier thing nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
coming back after 25 months, has the standard changed
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how many independent results does a supplier need
pattern not one result
is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
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a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
thats evidence
how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
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blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
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right so i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier
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thin evidence
coming back to this do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones
update from 4 months ago: ERP added evidence and the entry now reflects it
who decides, the mods or the room
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thats not evidence
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what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
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genuine question if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
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Assay note: SWB lot D-0718 reported at 99.2% of label content.
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
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two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
what actually counts as evidence for a verification
nothing gets deleted
refresh on evidence
why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored
does a good result from Medutest outweigh a bad one from Janoshik
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
never for sale
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
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what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
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not a recommendation
slightly off topic but i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count
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does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
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we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern, thats just me
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
does SSA being verified mean my vial is fine
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the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
log it either way
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On this day 7 years ago this channel logged 65 messages.
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right so not a recommendation
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post the photos
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
Purity check: no report on file for lot B-0114. Nothing logged either way.
sorry to jump in thin evidence