update on the earlier thing the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now
#vendor-verification 2026-01-17
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- private_script_pri — if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score, take that with a pinch of salt 11:40
- lisbon_lot — how does a supplier get verification revoked 13:53
- lisbon_lot — blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs 14:30
- sharps_comedy — we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern 14:59
is there a version of the log i can read chronologically
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what actually counts as evidence for a verification
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
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a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
not a recommendation
unrelated but a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
nothing gets deleted
lot number or nothing
two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
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coming back after 8 months, has the standard changed
blinded is better
thats not evidence
refresh on evidence
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if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score, take that with a pinch of salt
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genuine question verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
[edited]does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation
has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
does a good result from VendorInvestigate outweigh a bad one from PeptideMeter
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes, for what its worth
never for sale
how does a supplier get verification revoked
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revoked stays in the log
both numbers go in
do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
thats evidence
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two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
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follow up is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable
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sorry to jump in if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored
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verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
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genuine question we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
who decides, the mods or the room
log it either way
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quick one update from 15 months ago: QST added evidence and the entry now reflects it
ok so somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
post the photos
a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
genuine question thats evidence
pattern not one result
has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
Reminder for nine_nine_one: dose day is today. Set 8 days ago.
does CPC being verified mean my vial is fine
thin evidence
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