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#vendor-verification 2026-01-15
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- sunday_shot — a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all 13:15
- drawup_dee — right so a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both, someone check my working 14:53
- drawup_dee — verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted 15:00
a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
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two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
sorry to jump in update from 14 months ago: SWB added evidence and the entry now reflects it
while im here blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
Reminder for meniscus_mel: dose day is today. Set 3 days ago.
why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
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log it either way
post the photos
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
refresh on evidence
[edited]both numbers go in
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has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier, i think
ok so who decides, the mods or the room
does a good result from Janoshik outweigh a bad one from PeptideMeter
blinded is better
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
right so a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both, someone check my working
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never for sale
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
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a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine
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pattern not one result
lot number or nothing
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
how does a supplier get verification revoked
nothing gets deleted
does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
revoked stays in the log
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable
quick one we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern, ask me again in a month
not a recommendation
two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log, i think
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
does SWB being verified mean my vial is fine
coming back to this what actually counts as evidence for a verification
post the photos
we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
thats not evidence
we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
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verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
thin evidence
right so never for sale
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes