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#vendor-verification 2025-10-25

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  • stack_sceptic — for the archive does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything 19:39
  • relabel_watch — how many independent results does a supplier need 19:59
  • relabel_watch — is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable 20:40
PP

genuine question the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line

RW

coming back to this somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log

does a good result from PeptideMeter outweigh a bad one from VendorInvestigate
update from 6 months ago: WWB added evidence and the entry now reflects it

TF

right so if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score

SS

for the archive does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything

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refresh on evidence

RW

how many independent results does a supplier need

EvidenceCounts?
Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legibleyes
Independent report, no lot numberno
Supplier certificate onlyno
Screenshot of a reportno
Blinded pooled submissionyes, for the pool
A friend who said it was fineno
RW

what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises

we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern

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SB

update on the earlier thing we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry

CH

verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently

a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both

RW

a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record

if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution

blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs

who decides, the mods or the room

the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division

is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable

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CH

update from 4 months ago: SWB added evidence and the entry now reflects it

GC

i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier

what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine

FA

the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now

the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not

*Medutest not the other one

VB

Digest for the week of 2025-02-22 has been published.

FA

verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more

has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation

GC

two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers