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#vendor-verification 2025-09-21

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  • calgary_cold — is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers 17:18
  • karl_fischer — has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation 17:54
  • calgary_cold — the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now 18:42
  • calgary_cold — how many independent results does a supplier need 19:11
  • blank_run — how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all 20:17
U1

how does a supplier get verification revoked

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TD

the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line

is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers

transit-times.csv
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two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers

NP

update from 14 months ago: GL Biochem added evidence and the entry now reflects it

NP

verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more

a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel

KF

the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not

KF

if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score

ST

if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution

log it either way

thats evidence

CC

a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record

BB

ok so what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises, ymmv

ST

update on the earlier thing verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score

CC

the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now

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a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all

refresh on evidence

CC

right so what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine

TE

sorry to jump in what actually counts as evidence for a verification

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BR

quick one a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score

BR

we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern

how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all

EvidenceCounts?
Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legibleyes
Independent report, no lot numberno
Supplier certificate onlyno
Screenshot of a reportno
Blinded pooled submissionyes, for the pool
A friend who said it was fineno
NP

what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves

*VendorInvestigate not the other one

TE

blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs

QQ

verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently, for what its worth