two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
#vendor-verification 2024-09-22
- chlorhex — sorry to jump in how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier… 20:41
- relabel_watch — verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently 21:18
- tenpence — how many independent results does a supplier need 23:11
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
coming back to this two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
[edited]thats evidence
sorry to jump in how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
post the photos
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
Testing queue: 3 submissions open, 122 awaiting dispatch.
never for sale
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
| Evidence | Counts? |
|---|---|
| Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legible | yes |
| Independent report, no lot number | no |
| Supplier certificate only | no |
| Screenshot of a report | no |
| Blinded pooled submission | yes, for the pool |
| A friend who said it was fine | no |
we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation
pattern not one result
thats not evidence
do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones
how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
nothing gets deleted
i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier
log it either way
refresh on evidence
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all, i have it written down somewhere
has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
how many independent results does a supplier need
both numbers go in