a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
#vendor-verification 2024-08-09
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- lean_mass_lex — has anyone ever offered to pay for verification 19:43
- lean_mass_lex — verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get… 19:45
- lean_mass_lex — update from 11 months ago: GGPeps added evidence and the entry now reflects it 19:48
- lean_mass_lex — a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all 20:07
- slow.taper — verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a… 20:30
has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
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verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
update from 11 months ago: GGPeps added evidence and the entry now reflects it
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
[edited]does a good result from Janoshik outweigh a bad one from VendorInvestigate
refresh on evidence
| Evidence | Counts? |
|---|---|
| Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legible | yes |
| Independent report, no lot number | no |
| Supplier certificate only | no |
| Screenshot of a report | no |
| Blinded pooled submission | yes, for the pool |
| A friend who said it was fine | no |
lot number or nothing
follow up how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
revoked stays in the log
a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
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what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
log it either way
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones
is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation
pattern not one result
i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count
thats evidence
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not a recommendation
two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
who decides, the mods or the room
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
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