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#tirzepatide 2024-10-26

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  • gip_glp_gil — whats the plateau pattern here, same as semaglutide or different 13:03
  • eight_mm — at 0.5 my appetite went completely and i dropped back a step, eating nothing isnt a win changed my mind about needing 15, i was chasing a number rather than an outcome 14:52
  • comment_fatigue — does the appetite effect feel different or just stronger 15:53
GG

€185 for a 2 vial is roughly what ive paid for the last year

titrate slow

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EM

slightly off topic but anyone got a 4 recon they like for the 20 vials

GG

whats the plateau pattern here, same as semaglutide or different

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
GG

i sat at 7.5 for 4 months and never needed more, which is where the folklore comes from, ill dig out the number

dual agonist, GIP as well as GLP-1, thats the whole difference in one line, i have it written down somewhere

the sweet spot thing is survivorship, the people it worked for stayed and said so, i have it written down somewhere

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*VendorInvestigate not the other one

if youre coming off semaglutide the honest answer is start low and find out, theres no table

EM

right so switched from 2.4 semaglutide and started at 2.5, took the slow route, never regretted it

EM

coming off semaglutide, is there a conversion or do i restart at 2.5

EM

while im here the sweet spot argument is really about effect per side effect, not a magic number

VB

Assay note: GL Biochem lot C-4402 reported at 96.8% of label content.

LN

changed my mind about needing 15, i was chasing a number rather than an outcome, i could be wrong

no gap when i switched, took the last semaglutide dose and started this a week later

EM

i argued the sweet spot was nonsense and then spent 22 months at 7.5 not needing more

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at 15 the GI came back for me, so my easier profile claim only applies below that

did anyone go past 15 and was there any point to it

at 0.5 my appetite went completely and i dropped back a step, eating nothing isnt a win
changed my mind about needing 15, i was chasing a number rather than an outcome

Cited study
Tirzepatide Once Weekly for the Treatment of Obesity (SURMOUNT-1)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2022
72 weeks, tirzepatide 5, 10 and 15mg against placebo.
LN

SURMOUNT was the weight programme and SURPASS was diabetes, thats the split people mix up

easier gi for me

is 7.5 really the sweet spot or is that just channel folklore

does switching from semaglutide need a gap or do you just start
the GI difference held for me right up to 15, which isnt what a couple of people here found

did anyone find the GI easier than semaglutide at an equivalent effect

CF

the two compounds arent interchangeable week for week even if the effect ends up similar

i went to 15 and came back to 10, more suppression wasnt more useful for me, still working it out

AA

restarted at 2.5 after 2 months off and the first two doses reminded me why titration exists

follow up there is no clean conversion between the two, anyone giving you a ratio is guessing

did going from 0.25 semaglutide to 5 of this feel like a step down for anyone

15 is the top

ok so plateaued at 30 weeks the same way i did on semaglutide, so i doubt its compound specific

im at 15 and thinking about 0.25, did anyone gain anything from that step

GG

my PeptideMeter result on a GL Biochem vial came in at 99.2 which is why i keep buying from them

RT

40 units of a 8 solution is a lot of volume and i check that one twice every single time

went back to semaglutide after 17 months because the cost difference mattered more than the GI