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#test-results 2026-03-18

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  • nine_nine_one — right so whats the worst result anyone has logged and what happened next 15:43
  • verify_or_dont — i test roughly every tenth vial. it is a sampling strategy, not paranoia 15:57
  • mira_pins — i told ERP about a result they would not have liked and they did not argue. credit where it is due, i could be wrong 17:59
  • aliquot_ada — how many lots do you need before you can say anything about a supplier 18:17
AA

i had a result i am fairly sure was a handling error on my side and i logged it as such

AA

slightly off topic but does anyone log the negative results, the boring ones

how do you separate batch variance from supplier variance

how much does sample handling on my end affect the number

is anyone tracking results over time in a way they would share

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coming back after 10 months with a follow up result, where do i put it

lot        bought    purity   assay/label
A-2418     2025-03   99.1%    9.6 / 10mg
A-2601     2025-08   98.7%    9.8 / 10mg
B-0114     2026-01   99.3%    9.4 / 10mg
B-0329     2026-04   98.9%    9.9 / 10mg

the results in this channel skew because people test when they are suspicious. that is selection bias and it is real

BS

sample handling on your end absolutely affects it. draw cleanly, ship fast, do not let it sit warm

BS

genuine question do the results in this channel skew because people test when suspicious

for the archive a supplier disputing a result is rare here and it has never gone well for the supplier

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AA

98.6 against a certificate of 99.2 is fine. the same supplier landing low four times in a row is a question
if you are testing to settle an argument you will not settle it with n of 1

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NN

while im here a point or two between the certificate and an independent result is inside what two labs disagree by

NN

right so whats the worst result anyone has logged and what happened next

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VO

a result without a lot number and a purchase date is an anecdote with a pdf attached, i have it written down somewhere

VO

i test roughly every tenth vial. it is a sampling strategy, not paranoia

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what interests me is when the gap goes the same direction every time. once is noise, three times is a pattern

a single sample tells you about a single vial. that is genuinely all it tells you

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thats not great

anyone had a result they think was a lab error rather than a bad vial

is a purity-only test worth the money if underfill is the common failure

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SI

coming back to this has a supplier ever disputed a result posted here

the honest limits: hobby chain of custody is weak and any result here should be read with that in mind, take that with a pinch of salt

SI

genuine question whats the underfill rate people are actually seeing

MP

genuine question if the vial has been through a bad transit you are testing the transit as much as the supplier

MP

i told ERP about a result they would not have liked and they did not argue. credit where it is due, i could be wrong

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AA

how many lots do you need before you can say anything about a supplier

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MP

if you are testing to settle an argument you will not settle it with n of 1

AA

underfill is more common than impurity. if you only test purity you are testing the less likely failure

quick one my sheet has 6 lots from QST with a spread under a point, which is tight

selection bias

AA

genuine question anyone tested the same lot twice at different labs

weigh the vial before you reconstitute. it costs nothing and catches the common failure

whats the lot

update from 4 months ago: retested the same supplier, result came back better, logged both

NN

one bad test does not condemn a supplier. one good test does not clear one. both halves get ignored equally

NN

log the boring results too. a channel that only records failures produces a false picture

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SI

the widest spread in my data is about 2.6 percentage points across five lots from one supplier

AA

post the lot, the purchase month, the lab, the number, and what you were expecting. that makes it useful later

SI

posting my Janoshik result on lot B-0114, what do people make of it

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