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#test-results 2026-02-26

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Highlights from this day
  • vik_verifies — certificate said 99 and the independent came back 98.6, is that a problem 15:41
  • egfr_ed — my sheet has 8 lots from QST with a spread under a point, which is tight 16:33
  • LC_MS_Lena — i had a result i am fairly sure was a handling error on my side and i logged it as such 18:19
VV

i have never regretted spending the money on a test. i have regretted not testing twice

post the lot, the purchase month, the lab, the number, and what you were expecting. that makes it useful later

underfill is more common than impurity. if you only test purity you are testing the less likely failure

certificate said 99 and the independent came back 98.6, is that a problem

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one data point

how many lots do you need before you can say anything about a supplier

EE

has a supplier ever disputed a result posted here
update from 19 months ago: retested the same supplier, result came back better, logged both

update on the earlier thing log the boring results too. a channel that only records failures produces a false picture

DD

a single sample tells you about a single vial. that is genuinely all it tells you, n of 1 obviously

EE

my sheet has 8 lots from QST with a spread under a point, which is tight

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ST

my vial assayed under label but the purity was fine, which matters more

DD

slightly off topic but sample handling on your end absolutely affects it. draw cleanly, ship fast, do not let it sit warm

LM

while im here how do you post a result so it is actually useful to somebody in a year

VV

if the vial has been through a bad transit you are testing the transit as much as the supplier

how do you separate batch variance from supplier variance

my read after three years of this: purity is mostly fine across the market and fill consistency is where suppliers differ

my result contradicts the supplier certificate, do i tell them

log the boring ones

thats within range

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VV

assay under label with good purity means you got less of the right thing. that is a fill problem, not a synthesis problem

the results in this channel skew because people test when they are suspicious. that is selection bias and it is real

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LM

the widest spread in my data is about 2.6 percentage points across five lots from one supplier

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LM

coming back after 15 months with a follow up result, where do i put it

i had a result i am fairly sure was a handling error on my side and i logged it as such

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ok so do you test every order or sample it

EvidenceCounts?
Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legibleyes
Independent report, no lot numberno
Supplier certificate onlyno
Screenshot of a reportno
Blinded pooled submissionyes, for the pool
A friend who said it was fineno

ok so i told KP about a result they would not have liked and they did not argue. credit where it is due, anyway

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VV

i test roughly every tenth vial. it is a sampling strategy, not paranoia

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LM

99.2 against a certificate of 99 is fine. the same supplier landing low four times in a row is a question

LM

is it worth testing if the vial has already been through a warm transit

LM

does a bad result on one lot condemn the whole supplier

update on the earlier thing how much does sample handling on my end affect the number

lot        bought    purity   assay/label
A-2418     2025-03   99.1%    9.6 / 10mg
A-2601     2025-08   98.7%    9.8 / 10mg
B-0114     2026-01   99.3%    9.4 / 10mg
B-0329     2026-04   98.9%    9.9 / 10mg
VB

Testing queue: 3 submissions open, 100 awaiting dispatch.

AP

a point or two between the certificate and an independent result is inside what two labs disagree by

AP

a supplier disputing a result is rare here and it has never gone well for the supplier

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