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#test-results 2026-01-19

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  • one_data_point — if the vial has been through a bad transit you are testing the transit as much as the supplier, thats one data point 17:53
  • one_data_point — how do you post a result so it is actually useful to somebody in a year 18:02
  • chaser_chris — my sheet has 9 lots from MKM with a spread under a point, which is tight 19:08
  • ring_size_down — i had a result i am fairly sure was a handling error on my side and i logged it as such, anyway 19:47
  • ring_size_down — i told CPC about a result they would not have liked and they did not argue. credit where it is due 20:14
OD

a single sample tells you about a single vial. that is genuinely all it tells you

a supplier disputing a result is rare here and it has never gone well for the supplier, ymmv

OD

genuine question update from 26 months ago: retested the same supplier, result came back better, logged both

if the vial has been through a bad transit you are testing the transit as much as the supplier, thats one data point

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OD

how do you post a result so it is actually useful to somebody in a year

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CC

i have never regretted spending the money on a test. i have regretted not testing twice

CC

the results in this channel skew because people test when they are suspicious. that is selection bias and it is real

CC

log the boring results too. a channel that only records failures produces a false picture, ymmv

CC

sample handling on your end absolutely affects it. draw cleanly, ship fast, do not let it sit warm

CC

my sheet has 9 lots from MKM with a spread under a point, which is tight

AP

a point or two between the certificate and an independent result is inside what two labs disagree by

ST

underfill is more common than impurity. if you only test purity you are testing the less likely failure, thats just me

coming back after 15 months with a follow up result, where do i put it

certificate said 99.4 and the independent came back 97.4, is that a problem

is it worth testing if the vial has already been through a warm transit

RS

i had a result i am fairly sure was a handling error on my side and i logged it as such, anyway

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RS

weigh the vial before you reconstitute. it costs nothing and catches the common failure

the widest spread in my data is about 2.6 percentage points across five lots from one supplier

MM

quick one the honest limits: hobby chain of custody is weak and any result here should be read with that in mind

RS

i told CPC about a result they would not have liked and they did not argue. credit where it is due

CC

my read after three years of this: purity is mostly fine across the market and fill consistency is where suppliers differ

TO

one bad test does not condemn a supplier. one good test does not clear one. both halves get ignored equally

MO

slightly off topic but what interests me is when the gap goes the same direction every time. once is noise, three times is a pattern

log the boring ones

attach the pdf

MO

my vial assayed under label but the purity was fine, which matters more

assay under label with good purity means you got less of the right thing. that is a fill problem, not a synthesis problem

while im here log the lot number

how much does sample handling on my end affect the number

TO

test it again

lot        bought    purity   assay/label
A-2418     2025-03   99.1%    9.6 / 10mg
A-2601     2025-08   98.7%    9.8 / 10mg
B-0114     2026-01   99.3%    9.4 / 10mg
B-0329     2026-04   98.9%    9.9 / 10mg

while im here if you are testing to settle an argument you will not settle it with n of 1