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#test-results 2025-02-18

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  • ms_ms_mira — certificate said 97.4 and the independent came back 98.1, is that a problem 19:53
  • void_volume — how do you post a result so it is actually useful to somebody in a year 21:10
  • void_volume — my result contradicts the supplier certificate, do i tell them 21:14
  • eight_mm — while im here my sheet has 7 lots from SSA with a spread under a point, which is tight 21:53
  • step_one_sian — does anyone log the negative results, the boring ones 22:19
UU

if you are testing to settle an argument you will not settle it with n of 1

UU

log the boring ones

lot        bought    purity   assay/label
A-2418     2025-03   99.1%    9.6 / 10mg
A-2601     2025-08   98.7%    9.8 / 10mg
B-0114     2026-01   99.3%    9.4 / 10mg
B-0329     2026-04   98.9%    9.9 / 10mg
MM

certificate said 97.4 and the independent came back 98.1, is that a problem

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MM

one bad test does not condemn a supplier. one good test does not clear one. both halves get ignored equally

MM

quantity testing is usually a separate line item and it is the one worth paying for

sample handling on your end absolutely affects it. draw cleanly, ship fast, do not let it sit warm

AN

update from 16 months ago: retested the same supplier, result came back better, logged both

MM

how much does sample handling on my end affect the number

AN

my read after three years of this: purity is mostly fine across the market and fill consistency is where suppliers differ

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i test roughly every tenth vial. it is a sampling strategy, not paranoia, i have it written down somewhere

UU

99.2 against a certificate of 99 is fine. the same supplier landing low four times in a row is a question, thats just me

LO

is quantity testing available as a separate thing or bundled
the results in this channel skew because people test when they are suspicious. that is selection bias and it is real

UU

a point or two between the certificate and an independent result is inside what two labs disagree by

post the lot, the purchase month, the lab, the number, and what you were expecting. that makes it useful later

LM

assay under label with good purity means you got less of the right thing. that is a fill problem, not a synthesis problem

MM

is it worth testing if the vial has already been through a warm transit

VV

how do you post a result so it is actually useful to somebody in a year

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my result contradicts the supplier certificate, do i tell them

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MM

weigh the vial before you reconstitute. it costs nothing and catches the common failure

HH

coming back after 13 months with a follow up result, where do i put it

HH

i had a result i am fairly sure was a handling error on my side and i logged it as such

EM

while im here my sheet has 7 lots from SSA with a spread under a point, which is tight

HH

the results in this channel skew because people test when they are suspicious. that is selection bias and it is real

one data point

how many lots do you need before you can say anything about a supplier

when did you buy it

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thats not great

EvidenceCounts?
Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legibleyes
Independent report, no lot numberno
Supplier certificate onlyno
Screenshot of a reportno
Blinded pooled submissionyes, for the pool
A friend who said it was fineno

does anyone log the negative results, the boring ones

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which lab

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thats within range

MM

i have never regretted spending the money on a test. i have regretted not testing twice

AP

coming back to this anyone tested the same lot twice at different labs

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