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#test-results 2024-09-07

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  • customs_owl — if the vial has been through a bad transit you are testing the transit as much as the supplier 22:35
  • noct.titrate — i test roughly every tenth vial. it is a sampling strategy, not paranoia, anyway 22:51
  • VialBot — Digest for the week of 2024-05-08 has been published. 23:24
  • HPLC_Hank — update from 8 months ago: retested the same supplier, result came back better, logged both, thats one data point underfill is more common than impurity. if you only… 23:31
SB

certificate said 99.4 and the independent came back 97.4, is that a problem

how much does sample handling on my end affect the number

whats the lot

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CO

a point or two between the certificate and an independent result is inside what two labs disagree by, anyway

if the vial has been through a bad transit you are testing the transit as much as the supplier

lot        bought    purity   assay/label
A-2418     2025-03   99.1%    9.6 / 10mg
A-2601     2025-08   98.7%    9.8 / 10mg
B-0114     2026-01   99.3%    9.4 / 10mg
B-0329     2026-04   98.9%    9.9 / 10mg

the results in this channel skew because people test when they are suspicious. that is selection bias and it is real

right so anyone had a result they think was a lab error rather than a bad vial

selection bias

VL

whats the worst result anyone has logged and what happened next

which lab

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NT

how many lots do you need before you can say anything about a supplier

my result contradicts the supplier certificate, do i tell them

VL

99 against a certificate of 96.8 is fine. the same supplier landing low four times in a row is a question

VL

quantity testing is usually a separate line item and it is the one worth paying for

a result without a lot number and a purchase date is an anecdote with a pdf attached

weigh it first

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VV

is a purity-only test worth the money if underfill is the common failure

coming back after 24 months with a follow up result, where do i put it

DD

one bad test does not condemn a supplier. one good test does not clear one. both halves get ignored equally, not advice obviously

CO

weigh the vial before you reconstitute. it costs nothing and catches the common failure

DD

sample handling on your end absolutely affects it. draw cleanly, ship fast, do not let it sit warm

the honest limits: hobby chain of custody is weak and any result here should be read with that in mind

HH

i had a result i am fairly sure was a handling error on my side and i logged it as such

VV

posting my Janoshik result on lot G-0641, what do people make of it

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thats a fill problem

VB

Digest for the week of 2024-05-08 has been published.

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is it worth testing if the vial has already been through a warm transit

HH

update from 8 months ago: retested the same supplier, result came back better, logged both, thats one data point
underfill is more common than impurity. if you only test purity you are testing the less likely failure

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*VendorInvestigate not the other one

AA

underfill is more common than impurity. if you only test purity you are testing the less likely failure

post the lot, the purchase month, the lab, the number, and what you were expecting. that makes it useful later, thats one data point

VI

do the results in this channel skew because people test when suspicious

what interests me is when the gap goes the same direction every time. once is noise, three times is a pattern