does the amber vial thing matter or is it marketing
#storage-coldchain 2025-05-10
- orfor_watch — does the amber vial thing matter or is it marketing 14:46
- orfor_watch — i have never had a lyophilised vial fail after a warm transit and i have had some bad ones, your mileage will differ light exposure matters much less than temperature… 15:08
- pinch_not_stretch — freeze thaw cycling is the risk, not one freeze. that is my read of it anyway 16:55
- pinch_not_stretch — slightly off topic but update from 20 months ago: replaced the fridge, temperature is stable, no more anxiety 16:56
i have never had a lyophilised vial fail after a warm transit and i have had some bad ones, your mileage will differ
light exposure matters much less than temperature for these. i still keep them in the carton
anyone had a vial visibly change after a warm transit
if you are worried after a bad transit, test it. that is what the testing channels are for
not the freezer
[edited]mon 4.1 / door 7.2
tue 4.0 / door 7.8
wed 4.2 / door 6.9
thu 3.9 / door 7.4
fri 4.1 / door 8.1 <- shopping day
sat 4.3 / door 7.0
sun 4.0 / door 6.8light exposure matters much less than temperature for these. i still keep them in the carton
i left a reconstituted vial out overnight once, sent it for testing out of curiosity, it came back fine
for flying, hand luggage every time. the hold is not temperature controlled the way people assume
do you keep the unopened vials and the in-use one in the same place
two to eight degrees. most domestic fridge doors are not in that range and people do not check
solution is not
not the door
freeze thaw cycling is the risk, not one freeze. that is my read of it anyway
slightly off topic but update from 20 months ago: replaced the fridge, temperature is stable, no more anxiety
freeze debate again
i left it out overnight by accident, bin it or use it
test it
a liquid cold pack tells you it was above freezing, not that your vial cooked
gel packs
the vial that visibly changed after a warm transit was the one that had already been reconstituted, i think
i would use it
lyophilised at room temp for 17 days in transit, worried or not
hand luggage
the practical risk in winter shipping is freezing, and in summer it is heat. plan for the season you are in
my fridge is 4
freezing reconstituted peptide is the one thing this channel has never agreed on