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#semaglutide 2025-05-01

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  • half_life_hal — im 19 months in at 7.5 and the appetite effect faded, is that a thing 19:43
  • verify_or_dont — was SURPASS-2 the one that ran to 68 weeks or am i mixing them up 19:56
  • ten_of_ten — STEP is several trials, so saying STEP said x is usually wrong without a number after it 19:59
  • ten_of_ten — brand vs compounded, is there a difference people can actually feel 20:06

slightly off topic but how long till steady state, ive read the half life is about a week

TT

moving my dose day by a day or two never did anything noticeable for me, anyway
dose day is sunday for me only because thats when i remember, not because sunday matters

TT

i dont think the plateau is a dose problem most of the time, but i cant prove that, anyway

seven days ish

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MM

STEP 4 had the withdrawal arm, thats the one people quote when they talk about stopping

while im here 9 months at 2.4 and the honest summary is diminishing returns after the first half

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my plateau was the scale stopping while appetite stayed suppressed, which is a different problem

TT

does the seven day half life mean the last two days are weaker

TT

five week steps worked better for me than four, purely on how the second week felt

if youre comparing brand to compounded, dose accuracy in the vial is the variable, not the molecule

is the plateau at 3 weeks normal or am i doing something wrong

Cited study
Once-Weekly Semaglutide in Adults with Overweight or Obesity (STEP 1)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2021
68 weeks, semaglutide 2.4mg weekly against placebo, with lifestyle intervention in both arms.
HL

$38 a month for compounded against what brand costs locally is why most people here use vials

HL

update on the earlier thing half life is about a week so youre roughly four to five weeks to steady state on any new dose

HL

im 19 months in at 7.5 and the appetite effect faded, is that a thing

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PF

went to 2.4 and the extra suppression wasnt worth the GI for me, so i came back down

HL

held at 0.5 and lost 16lb over 12 months, slower than the trials and fine by me

went too fast once

VO

was SURPASS-2 the one that ran to 68 weeks or am i mixing them up

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TO

STEP is several trials, so saying STEP said x is usually wrong without a number after it

Cited study
Semaglutide vs Liraglutide for Weight Loss in Adults with Overweight or Obesity (STEP 8)
JAMA · 2022
Weekly against daily, head to head.
TO

brand vs compounded, is there a difference people can actually feel

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SELECT wasnt weight

wk 1-4    0.25mg
wk 5-10   0.50mg   (held 2 extra weeks)
wk 11-14  1.00mg
wk 15-26  1.70mg   (held, long)
wk 27+    2.40mg

i held at 0.5 for 4 months and it was the best decision i made

VO

my 5 vial in 1ml gives 10mg/ml so 2.5 lands on 5 units, thats why i picked that volume

while im here whats the actual licensed ceiling, i keep seeing different numbers

slower worked better

held there too

ST

SELECT was cardiovascular outcomes in people with overweight and existing disease, not a weight trial

PM

did anyone hold at 5 longer than four weeks before going up

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ST

the appetite effect faded for me around 17 months and going up fixed it for a while

STEP 1 ran to 68 weeks. thats the one everyone half remembers

PM

for the archive went 1 to 1.7 too fast and spent two weeks regretting it, dropped back and repeated the step

TO

the plateau hit me at 19 weeks and moved again about a month later without a dose change

is 2.4 the top or do people go past it

TO

changed my mind on the four week rule, i think it depends entirely on how the current dose feels

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anyone compared their 2.5 vial dosing against the pen increments

changed my mind on the four week rule, i think it depends entirely on how the current dose feels

slightly off topic but dose day is sunday for me only because thats when i remember, not because sunday matters

licensed ceiling for weight is 2.4 weekly, anything above that is not a licensed dose

not the same trial

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going slow cost me nothing except time and saved me two bad weeks, thats my whole contribution