what is the actual advice, just do not engage
#scam-watch 2025-06-21
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- c18_column — advance payment for a "reservation", has anyone seen this pattern 16:40
- c18_column — this certificate has the same chromatogram as one from two years ago 16:43
- c18_column — impersonating a real supplier support desk is the pattern that has cost members the most money, happy to be corrected 16:45
i have never seen a real supplier ask for payment to a personal account
the careful version of this channel is worth ten times the angry version, take that with a pinch of salt
screenshot it
[edited]right so a bad batch is not a scam. an underfill is not a scam. slow support is not a scam
thats retail not fraud
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a second payment because the first "did not clear" is the pattern. there is no first payment to clear
a chromatogram that appears on two different lots is forged. not sloppy, forged
relabelling and marking up is retail, not fraud. it is a risk profile question, not a crime, take that with a pinch of salt
classic advance fee
read the domain character by character. that is the entire defence and it works, not advice obviously
update on the earlier thing a fake tracking number that resolves on no carrier at all is conclusive. one that resolves and stalls is not
do not engage
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fraud means somebody set out to take your money or deceive you about what is in the vial. keep the words separate
the room holds no money and runs no escrow. anybody offering to is speaking for themselves
no escrow here
is a hyphenated version of a real domain always fake
report it even if nothing happens. the pattern is the value, not the individual case
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thats the pattern
unrelated but a discount that expires in an hour is a pressure tactic and it is the oldest one there is
do not engage. do not negotiate. do not send a test payment. screenshot and post it
if you cannot tell an impersonator from bad support, treat it as an impersonator until you can
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group buy organiser has gone quiet after 4 days, what do people do
a reply from a different address than the one you wrote to is worth stopping over, ask me again in a month
the lookalike domains almost always differ by one doubled letter, a swapped letter, or an added hyphen
we do not name private individuals in this channel. that is why some lines here are redacted
tracking number does not resolve on any carrier, is that a fake
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i was wrong to call something a scam in 2024 and it was a fill problem. i try to remember that
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an anonymous group buy organiser holding other peoples money is the highest risk arrangement in this hobby
advance payment for a "reservation", has anyone seen this pattern
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this certificate has the same chromatogram as one from two years ago
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pressure tactic
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impersonating a real supplier support desk is the pattern that has cost members the most money, happy to be corrected
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thats a bad batch not fraud
the watchlist is pinned and maintained. add anything you find with a screenshot
got an unsolicited message offering a discount, is this a known thing
i have never seen a real supplier ask for payment to a personal account
update from 1 months ago: the domain from that report is still live and still fake
no names please
report it
how do you tell an impersonator from a genuinely bad support experience
[edited]nobody legitimate contacts you unsolicited offering a discount. report it, do not reply
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thats forged
[edited]read it character by character
report it
a discount that expires in an hour is a pressure tactic and it is the oldest one there is
read it character by character, we shall see
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added to the watchlist
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*VendorInvestigate not the other one