certificate looks recycled from another lot, second opinion
#scam-watch 2025-04-23
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Highlights from this day
- coa_or_cope — is an underfilled vial fraud or a bad batch 19:37
- taper_or_not — update from 6 months ago: the domain from that report is still live and still fake, still working it out 19:44
- two_ml_two — somebody is using the room name to sell things, who do i tell 20:26
- VialBot — Verification log updated: TFC — evidence added, status unchanged. 21:32
fraud means somebody set out to take your money or deceive you about what is in the vial. keep the words separate
sorry to jump in impersonating a real supplier support desk is the pattern that has cost members the most money
the room holds no money and runs no escrow. anybody offering to is speaking for themselves
advance payment for a "reservation", has anyone seen this pattern
i have never seen a real supplier ask for payment to a personal account
is an underfilled vial fraud or a bad batch
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update from 6 months ago: the domain from that report is still live and still fake, still working it out
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a reply from a different address than the one you wrote to is worth stopping over
impersonating a real supplier support desk is the pattern that has cost members the most money
read it character by character
the reply came from a different address than the one i wrote to, is that normal
pressure tactic
[edited]Purity check: no report on file for lot KP-0925. Nothing logged either way.
is it worth reporting or does nothing happen
do not engage
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no escrow here
somebody is using the room name to sell things, who do i tell
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do not engage. do not negotiate. do not send a test payment. screenshot and post it
thats the pattern
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read the domain character by character. that is the entire defence and it works
a chromatogram that appears on two different lots is forged. not sloppy, forged
group buy organiser has gone quiet after 11 days, what do people do
a bad batch is not a scam. an underfill is not a scam. slow support is not a scam
thats forged
classic advance fee
a discount that expires in an hour is a pressure tactic and it is the oldest one there is
unrelated but how do you tell an impersonator from a genuinely bad support experience
report it
what is the actual advice, just do not engage
is a hyphenated version of a real domain always fake
an anonymous group buy organiser holding other peoples money is the highest risk arrangement in this hobby
a second payment because the first "did not clear" is the pattern. there is no first payment to clear
a fake tracking number that resolves on no carrier at all is conclusive. one that resolves and stalls is not
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thats retail not fraud
Verification log updated: TFC — evidence added, status unchanged.
i was wrong to call something a scam in 2024 and it was a fill problem. i try to remember that
fraud means somebody set out to take your money or deceive you about what is in the vial. keep the words separate
the room holds no money and runs no escrow. anybody offering to is speaking for themselves
thats a bad batch not fraud
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got an unsolicited message offering a discount, is this a known thing
relabelling and marking up is retail, not fraud. it is a risk profile question, not a crime