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#retatrutide 2025-11-01

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  • typosquat_tay — TRIUMPH is the phase 3 programme, thats the name to search rather than the molecule 17:16
  • VialBot — Reminder set. I will post here in 2 days. 18:49
  • maintenance_mo — buying this is a completely different risk conversation from the licensed compounds and that gets said too rarely 20:15
  • maintenance_mo — the half life supports weekly dosing and thats what ive done from the start 20:16
NE

sorry to jump in appetite suppression at 2.4 was stronger than my tirzepatide experience at a comparable point

BB

my resting rate went up 6 bpm in the first month and came back most of the way by month 18

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NE

lost 41kg over 19 months at doses well under what the trials used, we shall see

BB

triple agonist meaning GLP-1, GIP and glucagon, have i got that right

NE

low and slow here means smaller steps than i ever used on tirzepatide, thats the received wisdom

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MM

right so does the glucagon arm explain the heart rate or is that unrelated

TT

sat at 10 for 2 months rather than climbing and it kept working, so i never went up

TT

TRIUMPH is the phase 3 programme, thats the name to search rather than the molecule

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why does everyone insist on smaller steps here than on the other two

GB

people insist on small steps because the side effects arrive faster than on the other two

GB

the honest position is this has less human evidence behind it than anything else discussed here
phase 2 was still trending at the end which is why the phase 3 readout matters more than usual

SS

the heart rate thing is real enough that i mention it whenever someone asks about starting, we shall see

SS

research use only is on every vial and i treat it as exactly that, nobody here is prescribing

Cited study
Triple–Hormone-Receptor Agonist Retatrutide for Obesity — A Phase 2 Trial
New England Journal of Medicine · 2023
48 weeks, dose-ranging. A Phase 2 result is not a safety record.

glucagon is the new bit

did anyone come off because of the heart rate

watching my heart rate

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held at 12 for 25 months and it never plateaued for me, which i cant explain, someone check my working

phase 2 only

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NT

did the phase 2 result actually come in higher than the tirzepatide numbers

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BB

nobody should read my log as a plan, im recording what i did and thats all it is

the phase 2 weight result was larger than what the earlier agonists reported, in a smaller shorter trial

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VB

On this day 9 years ago this channel logged 77 messages.

VI

i was wrong to call the heart rate a non issue last year, enough people logged it that i changed my mind, for what its worth

VB

Reminder set. I will post here in 2 days.

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VI

stepping in 2 increments instead of doubling is the only thing i would change if i started again

VB

Batch lookup G-0641: 2 independent reports on file, earliest 2025-09-02.

A1

there is no long term safety data, phase 2 and an ongoing phase 3 programme is what exists

RR

coming back to this the glucagon arm is the mechanistic story for extra energy expenditure and its still a story to me

SS

Janoshik came back 98.1 on one lot and 96.8 on the next from the same SGN, both fine, anyway

back after 20 months, has anything actually been published since

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buying this is a completely different risk conversation from the licensed compounds and that gets said too rarely

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the half life supports weekly dosing and thats what ive done from the start

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SS

for the archive is there any long term safety data at all or is it phase 2 and hope

T5

is the glucagon arm what people mean by the energy expenditure thing

TRIUMPH is phase 3

reconstituted the 15 vial to 2.5mg/ml specifically so i could take 0.5 without measuring crumbs

T5

i said 2 months ago that my heart rate had settled and it has stayed settled since

NA

came off at 15 weeks because my resting rate stayed elevated and i didnt like it, happy to be corrected

NE

whats the half life like, is it weekly the same way
the honest position is this has less human evidence behind it than anything else discussed here

baseline  58
wk 2      61
wk 4      64
wk 6      67
wk 8      66
wk 10     65   (held dose from wk 7)
NE

energy expenditure isnt something i could feel, though my sleep tracker disagreed with me