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#reconstitution 2025-11-25

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  • septum_sal — how long after reconstituting before its actually dissolved 17:55
  • chlorhex — aim the diluent at the glass wall, not at the powder. it goes in gentler 18:54
  • thirty_one_g — for the archive i use bac water even for a single-use vial because it stings less, which is not the reason it exists 19:41
  • truncation_tru — nobody here should be telling you a dose. we can check your arithmetic, thats a different thing, anyway 20:12
SS

is it worth buying a 3ml syringe for the diluent or is the insulin one fine

TT

do not add more bac water to an already reconstituted vial, you have lost track of the concentration

label the vial

dead space

thats 5mg/ml

how much do i lose to dead space with a 29G pin

SS

update from 7 months ago: switched to a single concentration and have not miscalculated since

VV

whats the smallest volume you would trust yourself to measure on a u100

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slightly off topic but the meniscus thing is real. read it at eye level or you are guessing by a unit either way

can i add more bac water later to a vial ive already reconstituted

follow up it should be completely clear with no floaters. cloudy means stop

FF

10mg in 2ml is 5mg/ml. so 0.5mg is 0.1ml which is 10 units on a u100

VV

took me a year to stop over-diluting. the measurement error at 4 units is worse than the convenience

VV

one unit is 0.01ml. 100 units is 1ml. everything else in this channel follows from that

a slightly collapsed cake is cosmetic. a puddle in the bottom is not
nobody here should be telling you a dose. we can check your arithmetic, thats a different thing

anyone else find the 20mg vials harder to get fully dissolved than the small ones

LO

20mg in 2ml is 10mg/ml. 1mg is 10 units, 2mg is 20 units, easy

lyophilised powder is far more robust than people think. it is the solution that is fragile

thats the vacuum

bac water

FF

if the powder is on the stopper, tap it down before you add anything. it will still dissolve either way
the vacuum will pull it in. let it. fighting it is how you get a face full of aerosol

thats fine

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label the date too. you will not remember which vial is which by week 6

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you can absolutely just always use 2ml, and honestly most of us should

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VV

give it 8 minutes at room temperature before you decide it has not dissolved

CH

is it normal for the cake to look slightly collapsed on one side

aim the diluent at the glass wall, not at the powder. it goes in gentler

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my rule is one concentration for everything so i never have to think about it at 7am

SN

bacteriostatic water for anything multi-use. sterile water has no preservative in it at all, not advice obviously

the jewellery scale is a good habit but calibrate it, they drift badly, not advice obviously

ok so i keep a spare vial of bac water in the fridge purely so i never rush the maths

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weighing the vial before you reconstitute is the only way to catch an underfill

quick one if you draw up with a bigger pin and inject with a fresh one you lose a bit more to dead space

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TO

for the archive i use bac water even for a single-use vial because it stings less, which is not the reason it exists

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TO

temperature of the diluent does not matter. how fast you push it in does

15mg in 3ml is 5mg/ml. same numbers as 10 in 2, just more of it
if the powder is on the stopper, tap it down before you add anything. it will still dissolve either way

swirl dont shake

yep 10 units

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ST

benzyl alcohol is what makes it bacteriostatic. it is about 0.9% typically

TT

nobody here should be telling you a dose. we can check your arithmetic, thats a different thing, anyway

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AP

swirl it. do not shake it. the foam is denatured protein and you are not getting it back

do i swirl for a specific length of time or just until its clear

30mg in 3ml is 10mg/ml, so 5mg is 50 units. half the barrel, feels like a lot but its right

AP

i was wrong about this last year: it is fine to draw cold, it just stings more going in

TT

follow up gross powder mass is not net peptide. water and counterion are in that number

AP

i write the mg/ml on the vial with a sharpie the moment i reconstitute it

10mg vial
  + 1.0ml  -> 10.0 mg/ml   0.5mg =  5u   1mg = 10u
  + 2.0ml  ->  5.0 mg/ml   0.5mg = 10u   1mg = 20u
  + 2.5ml  ->  4.0 mg/ml   0.5mg = 12.5u (dont)
  + 5.0ml  ->  2.0 mg/ml   0.5mg = 25u   1mg = 50u