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#reconstitution 2025-11-04

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  • nhs_pathway_nell — a slightly collapsed cake is cosmetic. a puddle in the bottom is not 15:26
  • nhs_pathway_nell — if the powder is on the stopper, tap it down before you add anything. it will still dissolve either way 16:22
  • appetite_back — slightly off topic but give it 8 minutes at room temperature before you decide it has not dissolved 21:09
OA

sanity check my maths before i pin myself with something stupid

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if i add 2ml to a 2mg vial what concentration am i actually at

OA

i have never once regretted using a rounder number and a slightly bigger volume

OS

i swirl for about thirty seconds and then leave it. never had one fail to dissolve

one unit is 0.01ml. 100 units is 1ml. everything else in this channel follows from that

OS

swirl it. do not shake it. the foam is denatured protein and you are not getting it back

NP

can i add more bac water later to a vial ive already reconstituted
swirl it. do not shake it. the foam is denatured protein and you are not getting it back

read it at eye level

VB

Reminder for osaka_assay: dose day is today. Set 6 days ago.

OA

i write the mg/ml on the vial with a sharpie the moment i reconstitute it, not advice obviously

is it normal for the cake to look slightly collapsed on one side

PT

i use bac water even for a single-use vial because it stings less, which is not the reason it exists

my vial pulled the water in on its own, is that the vacuum or did i do something

OA

what do you do with the last 30 units when you cant draw them cleanly

PT

i keep a spare vial of bac water in the fridge purely so i never rush the maths

thats fine

NP

a slightly collapsed cake is cosmetic. a puddle in the bottom is not

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NP

if the maths gives you 13.7 units, change the volume. do not try to hit 13.7, n of 1 obviously

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anyone got a photo of what a properly dissolved vial looks like

you can absolutely just always use 2ml, and honestly most of us should

NP

if the powder is on the stopper, tap it down before you add anything. it will still dissolve either way

10mg vial
  + 1.0ml  -> 10.0 mg/ml   0.5mg =  5u   1mg = 10u
  + 2.0ml  ->  5.0 mg/ml   0.5mg = 10u   1mg = 20u
  + 2.5ml  ->  4.0 mg/ml   0.5mg = 12.5u (dont)
  + 5.0ml  ->  2.0 mg/ml   0.5mg = 25u   1mg = 50u

10mg in 1ml is 10mg/ml, so 2.5mg is 25 units. thats the one i use

SO

update from 11 months ago: switched to a single concentration and have not miscalculated since

SO

follow up took me a year to stop over-diluting. the measurement error at 4 units is worse than the convenience

SO

label the date too. you will not remember which vial is which by week 26

write the date on

does temperature of the bac water matter at all

SO

the meniscus thing is real. read it at eye level or you are guessing by a unit either way

NP

sorry to jump in dead space in a standard insulin syringe hub is small but it is not nothing over a month

VV

is it worth buying a 3ml syringe for the diluent or is the insulin one fine

NP

quick one is the meniscus reading actually a real source of error or am i overthinking

MP

while im here my 10mg vial weighed 11.4g on the jewellery scale, is that wrong

VV

if you draw up with a bigger pin and inject with a fresh one you lose a bit more to dead space

KF

follow up anyone worked out a recon volume that puts 10mg on a round unit mark

AB

slightly off topic but give it 8 minutes at room temperature before you decide it has not dissolved

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