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#reconstitution 2025-04-08

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  • salt_bridge — do you draw up with the same pin you inject with 20:42
  • tokyo_taper — lyophilised powder is far more robust than people think. it is the solution that is fragile 21:03
  • salt_bridge — sorry to jump in update from 16 months ago: switched to a single concentration and have not miscalculated since, take that with a pinch of salt 21:31
  • blank_run — gross powder mass is not net peptide. water and counterion are in that number, ill dig out the number 22:18
VB

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i write the mg/ml on the vial with a sharpie the moment i reconstitute it

15mg in 3ml is 5mg/ml. same numbers as 10 in 2, just more of it

10mg vial
  + 1.0ml  -> 10.0 mg/ml   0.5mg =  5u   1mg = 10u
  + 2.0ml  ->  5.0 mg/ml   0.5mg = 10u   1mg = 20u
  + 2.5ml  ->  4.0 mg/ml   0.5mg = 12.5u (dont)
  + 5.0ml  ->  2.0 mg/ml   0.5mg = 25u   1mg = 50u

coming back after 21 months, has the pinned recon volume advice changed

anyone got a photo of what a properly dissolved vial looks like

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DE

one unit is 0.01ml. 100 units is 1ml. everything else in this channel follows from that

BR

i use bac water even for a single-use vial because it stings less, which is not the reason it exists

nope, redo it

does benzyl alcohol matter if im finishing the vial in one go

label the vial

PT

anyone worked out a recon volume that puts 7.5mg on a round unit mark

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CO

5mg in 2ml gives 2.5mg/ml, 0.25mg is 10 units. good for a starting dose

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PT

benzyl alcohol is what makes it bacteriostatic. it is about 0.9% typically, thats one data point

EO

if you draw up with a bigger pin and inject with a fresh one you lose a bit more to dead space

SB

anyone else find the 2mg vials harder to get fully dissolved than the small ones

how do you all measure a half unit, or do you just not

TT

what do you do with the last 30 units when you cant draw them cleanly

lyophilised powder is far more robust than people think. it is the solution that is fragile

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BR

label the date too. you will not remember which vial is which by week 15

my 10mg vial weighed 11.4g on the jewellery scale, is that wrong

TY

coming back to this the jewellery scale is a good habit but calibrate it, they drift badly

i swirl for about thirty seconds and then leave it. never had one fail to dissolve, thats one data point

SB

do i swirl for a specific length of time or just until its clear

SB

sorry to jump in update from 16 months ago: switched to a single concentration and have not miscalculated since, take that with a pinch of salt

10mg vial
  + 1.0ml  -> 10.0 mg/ml   0.5mg =  5u   1mg = 10u
  + 2.0ml  ->  5.0 mg/ml   0.5mg = 10u   1mg = 20u
  + 2.5ml  ->  4.0 mg/ml   0.5mg = 12.5u (dont)
  + 5.0ml  ->  2.0 mg/ml   0.5mg = 25u   1mg = 50u
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not sterile water

does it matter if i inject the bac water straight at the powder

BR

if you cannot read the mark confidently, your volume is too small. redo it at a lower concentration

gross powder mass is not net peptide. water and counterion are in that number, ill dig out the number

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dead space in a standard insulin syringe hub is small but it is not nothing over a month

give it 5 minutes at room temperature before you decide it has not dissolved