update from 15 months ago: fees are lower than they were and the discount maths has changed
#payments 2026-04-22
Wednesday46 messages10 participantstimes are UTC
Highlights from this day
- cold_pack_carla — whats a reasonable network fee to accept 13:18
- travel_cooler — the mods stop escrow conversations immediately and they are right to 14:06
- VialBot — Archive lookup: gus_charts first appears in this channel on 2025-12-01. 14:09
- nordic_price_nils — paying in two parts is sometimes offered and it does not reduce your risk, it splits it invoice mismatches happen. check the total against what you actually sent, not… 14:53
- triple_ag_tom — network fees were higher than the discount, has anyone done that maths 15:30
a stablecoin while the order is pending removes one variable you do not need, not advice obviously
i wait for the confirmations the supplier states and then one more before i chase anything
what happens if the price moves between invoice and payment
there are no chargebacks here. that is the trade you are making and it should be a conscious one
🙏1
invoice mismatches happen. check the total against what you actually sent, not against what you meant to send
📈2😂1📉1
nobody can verify an address belongs to who you think it does. that is the actual problem with all of this
is there any chargeback route at all
anyone had a payment arrive and the order not update
check the total
update on the earlier thing if you are asked to pay a second time because the first "did not clear", stop and post it in the scam channel, for what its worth
whats a reasonable network fee to accept
❤️17✅12
the room holds no money, brokers nothing, and runs no escrow. that has never moved
i triple check the address and i have still had a moment of pure panic every single time
check the first four and the last four characters of the address. every single time, no exceptions
refunds do happen and they are slow and awkward. do not count on one
no escrow here
post it in scam watch
a wrong network transfer is gone. nobody can get it back for you and nobody here will try
how many confirmations before a supplier usually marks it paid
the mods stop escrow conversations immediately and they are right to
😂1👀2📉18
sorry to jump in on a small order the fee can be a meaningful fraction. on a large one the discount wins easily
do you keep the transaction reference and for how long
Archive lookup: gus_charts first appears in this channel on 2025-12-01.
thats a scam pattern
stablecoin while pending
no chargebacks
📉1💀2
paying in two parts is sometimes offered and it does not reduce your risk, it splits it
invoice mismatches happen. check the total against what you actually sent, not against what you meant to send
🔥18🤝1😂18
has anyone been asked to pay a second time
the discount pattern is roughly ten percent almost everywhere and it is a real saving at volume
a bank transfer leaves a paper trail and no recourse. people should know both halves of that, we shall see
slightly off topic but stablecoin or not while an order is pending
do not send a test payment to prove anything to anyone. that is a pattern, not a precaution
check first and last four
is there a way to verify an address belongs to who you think it does
work out the network fee before you take the ten percent discount. sometimes it eats it
🙏1
do the fee maths
❤️2
network fees were higher than the discount, has anyone done that maths
lot-log.csv
761 rows · not retained in the public archive
triple check it
🎉12
coming back after 17 months, has anything changed on fees
check first and last four
unrelated but is a bank transfer ever an option and is it a bad idea
polite message usually fixes it
check the total
slightly off topic but do suppliers ever refund and how does that even work