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#hplc-massspec 2026-05-03

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  • marrow.mod — coming back after 5 months, what changed in how you read these 18:12
  • rowan_reads — integration choices move the number by a few tenths easily. that is most of your inter-lab variance if the lab reports area percent without stating the wavelength,… 18:39
  • rowan_reads — two labs a point or two apart on the same lot is normal and gets mistaken for one of them being wrong constantly, ymmv i have had a lot where the mass was exactly… 18:55
  • VialBot — Reminder set. I will post here in 3 days. 20:19
  • bench_notes — oxidation is about plus 15.99 Da and is usually methionine or tryptophan 20:42
TF

update from 10 months ago: switched to asking for the chromatogram rather than the number and it changed everything

within inter-lab range

HH

retention time is a hint, not a fingerprint. two different peptides can co-elute perfectly happily
if somebody says they ran a mass spec and does not show you a spectrum, that is a claim, not a result

TC

update on the earlier thing truncations show as a mass deficit matching one or more residues. you need the sequence to say which

TC

semaglutide is about 4113.6 Da. [M+2H]2+ lands near 2057.8, [M+3H]3+ near 1372.2

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update on the earlier thing how do you spot a deletion in a sequence from mass alone

plus 16 is oxidation

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integration difference

the honest position is that hobby-level interpretation of a chromatogram is worth something but not much

JJ

baseline is drifting badly, is that the column or the mobile phase

does ms/ms actually prove identity or just make it very likely

tirzepatide is about 4813.5 Da, so 2+ is near 2407.8 and 3+ near 1605.5

RR

i have had a lot where the mass was exactly right and the purity was 96.8. wrong question, right answer

MM

relative retention time against a standard is comparable between labs. absolute minutes are not

MM

coming back after 5 months, what changed in how you read these

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RR

while im here baseline drift on a gradient is normal. baseline drift on an isocratic hold is your column, take that with a pinch of salt

AP

if the lab reports area percent without stating the wavelength, the number is less useful than it looks

RR

integration choices move the number by a few tenths easily. that is most of your inter-lab variance
if the lab reports area percent without stating the wavelength, the number is less useful than it looks

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two labs a point or two apart on the same lot is normal and gets mistaken for one of them being wrong constantly, ymmv
i have had a lot where the mass was exactly right and the purity was 96.8. wrong question, right answer

MM

whats a normal gradient for a peptide this size

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MM

a dimer usually shows up late and at roughly double the mass. the chromatogram alone will not tell you

has anyone ever had a result where the mass was right and the purity was wrong

MM

while im here deamidation is about plus 0.98 Da. it is not a rounding error, it is a degradant

you need more sample for identity than for purity. plan for that when you post it

MM

a warm transit can put a visible degradant peak on a chromatogram. that is what 4 days at ambient does, thats one data point

MM

i was wrong about tailing factor. it is usually the injection or the pH, not the column, happy to be corrected

show me the spectrum

VB

Reminder set. I will post here in 3 days.

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HH

ms/ms sequencing is the only thing i would call identity. everything else is circumstantial

DE

if somebody says they ran a mass spec and does not show you a spectrum, that is a claim, not a result

i have a number at about a third of what i expected, is that a charge state