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#hplc-massspec 2025-10-15

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  • ms_ms_mira — whats the void volume peak, is that always solvent 15:04
  • ms_ms_mira — how do you spot a deletion in a sequence from mass alone 15:20
  • blank_run — plus sixteen, is that always oxidation 17:16
CC

two labs a point or two apart on the same lot is normal and gets mistaken for one of them being wrong constantly

CC

baseline drift on a gradient is normal. baseline drift on an isocratic hold is your column, thats one data point

MM

whats the void volume peak, is that always solvent

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CC

has anyone ever had a result where the mass was right and the purity was wrong

MM

if the lab reports area percent without stating the wavelength, the number is less useful than it looks, i think

if the number you are staring at is a third of what you expected, do the charge state arithmetic before you panic

214nm sees the amide backbone so it sees everything. 280 only sees aromatics

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BR

deamidation is about plus 0.98 Da. it is not a rounding error, it is a degradant

KF

the honest position is that hobby-level interpretation of a chromatogram is worth something but not much, anyway

can you tell a dimer from the chromatogram alone

does ms/ms actually prove identity or just make it very likely

BR

i have had a lot where the mass was exactly right and the purity was 96.8. wrong question, right answer, n of 1 obviously

a shoulder on a peak is information, and usually bad information

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monoisotopic and average diverge more the bigger the molecule. say which one you are quoting

shallow gradients hide related substances behind the main peak. a steeper one separates and looks worse, honestly

baseline is drifting badly, is that the column or the mobile phase

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quick one a dimer usually shows up late and at roughly double the mass. the chromatogram alone will not tell you

if somebody says they ran a mass spec and does not show you a spectrum, that is a claim, not a result
integration choices move the number by a few tenths easily. that is most of your inter-lab variance

semaglutide is about 4113.6 Da. [M+2H]2+ lands near 2057.8, [M+3H]3+ near 1372.2

while im here is monoisotopic or average mass the one on most certificates

TF

update from 17 months ago: switched to asking for the chromatogram rather than the number and it changed everything, we shall see

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oxidation is about plus 15.99 Da and is usually methionine or tryptophan

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KF

i have a number at about a third of what i expected, is that a charge state

KF

how much sample does a lab actually need for identity as well as purity

KF

you need more sample for identity than for purity. plan for that when you post it

within inter-lab range