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#hplc-massspec 2025-05-16

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  • sharps_bin_sid — coming back to this relative retention time against a standard is comparable between labs. absolute minutes are not 12:32
  • gradient_greg — whats a normal gradient for a peptide this size 12:46
  • gradient_greg — if somebody says they ran a mass spec and does not show you a spectrum, that is a claim, not a result 13:36
SB

coming back to this the first peak is the solvent. it is always the solvent

SB

i have a number at about a third of what i expected, is that a charge state

AA

i asked Medutest for the raw trace and they sent it. that is the right answer to that question

SB

if the number you are staring at is a third of what you expected, do the charge state arithmetic before you panic, i have it written down somewhere

SB

right so a certificate with a number and no chromatogram is asking you to trust the integration you cannot see, n of 1 obviously

run a blank

how do you spot a deletion in a sequence from mass alone

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coming back to this relative retention time against a standard is comparable between labs. absolute minutes are not

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whats the void volume peak, is that always solvent

why does integration change the number so much

ms/ms or it isnt identity

KF

214nm sees the amide backbone so it sees everything. 280 only sees aromatics

retention time is a hint, not a fingerprint. two different peptides can co-elute perfectly happily

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plus 16 is oxidation

GG

whats a normal gradient for a peptide this size

peak   RRT    area%    note
  1   0.42     0.31    solvent front
  2   0.88     0.44    related substance
  3   1.00    98.72    main
  4   1.14     0.53    related substance
AA

ms/ms sequencing is the only thing i would call identity. everything else is circumstantial

plus 0.98 is deamidation

if somebody says they ran a mass spec and does not show you a spectrum, that is a claim, not a result

peak   RRT    area%    note
  1   0.42     0.31    solvent front
  2   0.88     0.44    related substance
  3   1.00    98.72    main
  4   1.14     0.53    related substance

you need more sample for identity than for purity. plan for that when you post it, still working it out

AP

deamidation is about plus 0.98 Da. it is not a rounding error, it is a degradant

integration difference

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KF

integration choices move the number by a few tenths easily. that is most of your inter-lab variance

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FT

right so oxidation is about plus 15.99 Da and is usually methionine or tryptophan

FT

a warm transit can put a visible degradant peak on a chromatogram. that is what 24 days at ambient does

AP

is monoisotopic or average mass the one on most certificates
ms/ms sequencing is the only thing i would call identity. everything else is circumstantial