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#dosing-titration 2025-12-09

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  • quiet_head_qi — i have been at 0.25 for 9 months and honestly i have stopped wanting to move 21:04
  • is_this_forever — coming back to this update from 20 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly 21:18
  • seven_five_sweet — appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing 21:30
  • taper_tess — how do you decide between holding and stepping when both feel wrong 21:54
  • taper_tess — is there any actual reason to escalate every 4 weeks other than the trial did it 22:27

i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all

TF

if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise

end of week thing

too early imo

you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten

i have been at 0.25 for 9 months and honestly i have stopped wanting to move

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thats normal

whats the smallest step anyone has managed between doses

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often

whats your rule for when a side effect means hold rather than push

IT

coming back to this update from 20 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly

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SF

right so the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied, your mileage will differ
i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on

appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing

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i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it

while im here how long did you hold at 12 before you moved up

a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored

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TT

how do you decide between holding and stepping when both feel wrong

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VB

Testing queue: 2 submissions open, 38 awaiting dispatch.

NT

update on the earlier thing if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

*VendorInvestigate not the other one

steady state is 5 weeks

VB

Digest for the week of 2025-05-13 has been published.

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NT

the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess

nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected

U-100 syringe: 1 unit = 0.01 ml
  10u = 0.10 ml
  25u = 0.25 ml
  50u = 0.50 ml
 100u = 1.00 ml
mg drawn = ml drawn x mg/ml
TT

if the current dose is still working, going up is spending headroom you might want later

thats anecdote

U-100 syringe: 1 unit = 0.01 ml
  10u = 0.10 ml
  25u = 0.25 ml
  50u = 0.50 ml
 100u = 1.00 ml
mg drawn = ml drawn x mg/ml

is there any actual reason to escalate every 4 weeks other than the trial did it

U-100 syringe: 1 unit = 0.01 ml
  10u = 0.10 ml
  25u = 0.25 ml
  50u = 0.50 ml
 100u = 1.00 ml
mg drawn = ml drawn x mg/ml
RR

if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet

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plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data

RR

right so i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else

small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

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my titration ladder took 21 months to climb and i would do it slower again

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SS

the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial

hold

NT

my dose day has drifted 7 days later over 5 months, does it matter

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NT

my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step

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