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#dosing-titration 2025-07-21

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  • seven_five_sweet — is there any actual reason to escalate every 4 weeks other than the trial did it 20:04
  • mhra_unlicensed — for the archive the people who do best here are almost always the ones going slowest 20:31
  • mhra_unlicensed — after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice 21:16
  • ms_ms_mira — whats the longest anyone has stayed on one dose 21:20
SF

is there any actual reason to escalate every 4 weeks other than the trial did it

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
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is there a trial anywhere that studied twice weekly, or is it all anecdote

came down, no regrets

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if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise

held for months

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WT

i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it
the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial

SF

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often

MU

for the archive the people who do best here are almost always the ones going slowest

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MU

you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten, happy to be corrected

MM

what does the room think about jumping a rung to catch up

i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything

MM

genuine question a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored

MU

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance

quick one has anyone gone up and then straight back down and been glad they tried

MM

whats the longest anyone has stayed on one dose

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if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial

MM

came down from a treatment dose to maintenance over about three months and it was uneventful

MM

unrelated but plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data

*Medutest not the other one