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#dosing-titration 2025-05-10

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  • rezept_rolf — nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected, ymmv 20:14
  • maintenance_mo — stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often 20:49
  • maintenance_mo — if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics 21:09
  • slow.taper — if the current dose is still working, going up is spending headroom you might want later 22:30
  • rezept_rolf — my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step, thats one data point 23:00
RR

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice

RR

if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet

i went from 5 to 0.25 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite

MM

i have been at 1 for 22 months and honestly i have stopped wanting to move

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all, your mileage will differ

RR

came down from a treatment dose to maintenance over about three months and it was uneventful

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nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected, ymmv

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SS

too early imo

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
TF

quick one the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess

MM

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
MM

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

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MM

dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it

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VB

New independent result logged — SWB, lot KP-0925, purity 97.4% (Janoshik).

VB

Inter-lab diff for lot A-2418: 98.1% vs 99.2%. Within expected range.

ST

if the current dose is still working, going up is spending headroom you might want later

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ST

follow up with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose

appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing

RR

my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step, thats one data point

wk 1-4    2.5mg
wk 5-8    5.0mg
wk 9-20   7.5mg   <- stayed here
wk 21-24  10.0mg  (no extra benefit for me)
wk 25+    7.5mg   (came back down)