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#coa-reading 2026-06-09

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  • impersonator_ip — the certificate from GL Biochem is the one i use to teach this because it actually has a populated impurity table 13:21
  • flint_fills — does anyone actually check the residual solvents section 16:09
  • lisbon_lot — purity is what fraction of the contents is the target. assay is how many mg are actually there. different questions 16:21
DO

the related substances table is the interesting part. a row of "not detected" means they did not look hard

*Medutest not the other one

II

the certificate from GL Biochem is the one i use to teach this because it actually has a populated impurity table

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PS

whats the minimum a certificate has to have before you take it seriously

LL

is endotoxin ever tested on research material

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sloppy not sinister

PS

i was wrong about this for a year: area percent under-reports nothing, it just answers a different question than assay does, someone check my working

AN

gross mass on a jewellery scale plus the water content is enough to catch most underfills

coming back after 6 months, has the pinned reading guide changed

quick one mixed fonts and inconsistent kerning in one document is worth a second look

FF

if the certificate date precedes the lot date, ask. sometimes it is sloppiness and sometimes it is not

FF

does anyone actually check the residual solvents section

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LineClaimsDoes not claim
Purity (area %)fraction of detected material that is the targethow many mg are in the vial
Assay / contentmg of target per vialthat it is sterile
Water contentmass fraction that is wateranything about purity
Counterionsalt form and its mass sharenet peptide unless stated
Related substanceswhat else was seenwhat was not looked for
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update on the earlier thing does anyone keep a folder of certificates to compare over time

FF

the retention time on this one is different from the last lot, problem

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LL

purity is what fraction of the contents is the target. assay is how many mg are actually there. different questions

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OS

certificate is dated before the lot date, is that just sloppiness

same chromatogram

LL

retention time shifts between runs are normal. relative retention time is the number to compare

LL

the paperwork can be perfect and the vial can still be light. weigh it

residual solvents matter more than people think for anything that went through a lot of purification steps, your mileage will differ

LM

a lab that reports "greater than 98%" rather than a number is telling you they did not integrate carefully

FF

net peptide is gross mass minus water minus counterion. that is why 11.4mg of powder can be a correct 10mg vial

why would a vial be 96.8 pure and still assay under label

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what does net peptide content mean next to gross mass

SB

unrelated but i keep every certificate in a dated folder and compare them. two suppliers had not changed their template since 2019, from memory

SB

if you only read one line on a certificate, read the lot number. if you read two, read the assay

SB

water content is why an honest 10mg vial assays at 9.1. karl fischer titration, and most certificates omit it, we shall see

tfa counterion runs higher by mass than acetate. if the certificate does not say, you cannot do the mass balance