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#coa-reading 2025-03-30

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  • slow.taper — i asked HJ for the method and they sent it. that alone put them ahead of most 22:35
  • chain_of_custody — my 30mg vial weighed more than 15mg of powder, is the certificate lying 22:56
  • slow.taper — is sterility tested as part of a normal purity certificate 22:57
  • void_volume — is area percent the same thing as how many mg are in the vial the certificate from KP is the one i use to teach this because it actually has a populated impurity table 23:29
  • coa_or_cope — the certificate from SSA is the one i use to teach this because it actually has a populated impurity table 23:30
SB

mixed fonts and inconsistent kerning in one document is worth a second look

a certificate should name the method, the instrument, the column and the operator. most name none of those

ST

i asked HJ for the method and they sent it. that alone put them ahead of most

sorry to jump in a vial can be 99.4% pure and hold 8.1mg of a 10mg label. both numbers are true and only one of them is the one you care about

VB

Digest for the week of 2024-10-19 has been published.

if the certificate date precedes the lot date, ask. sometimes it is sloppiness and sometimes it is not, i could be wrong

SB

while im here does purity by hplc at one wavelength miss things

not evidence on its own

SF

purity is what fraction of the contents is the target. assay is how many mg are actually there. different questions

CO

nobody can authenticate a certificate from a scan. you authenticate the material by testing it yourself

looks re-dated

peak   RRT    area%    note
  1   0.42     0.31    solvent front
  2   0.88     0.44    related substance
  3   1.00    98.72    main
  4   1.14     0.53    related substance

my 30mg vial weighed more than 15mg of powder, is the certificate lying

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ST

is sterility tested as part of a normal purity certificate

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no lot no certificate

net not gross

BS

follow up water content is why an honest 10mg vial assays at 9.1. karl fischer titration, and most certificates omit it

SF

unrelated but tfa counterion runs higher by mass than acetate. if the certificate does not say, you cannot do the mass balance

coming back after 3 months, has the pinned reading guide changed

not detected means nothing

CO

thats the counterion

LineClaimsDoes not claim
Purity (area %)fraction of detected material that is the targethow many mg are in the vial
Assay / contentmg of target per vialthat it is sterile
Water contentmass fraction that is wateranything about purity
Counterionsalt form and its mass sharenet peptide unless stated
Related substanceswhat else was seenwhat was not looked for

no lot number, no certificate. a document you cannot tie to the vial in your hand is decoration

the related substances table is the interesting part. a row of "not detected" means they did not look hard

thats a tell

CO

single wavelength detection can miss a co-eluting impurity that does not absorb there, happy to be corrected

VV

sloppy not sinister

LineClaimsDoes not claim
Purity (area %)fraction of detected material that is the targethow many mg are in the vial
Assay / contentmg of target per vialthat it is sterile
Water contentmass fraction that is wateranything about purity
Counterionsalt form and its mass sharenet peptide unless stated
Related substanceswhat else was seenwhat was not looked for

is area percent the same thing as how many mg are in the vial
the certificate from KP is the one i use to teach this because it actually has a populated impurity table

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LineClaimsDoes not claim
Purity (area %)fraction of detected material that is the targethow many mg are in the vial
Assay / contentmg of target per vialthat it is sterile
Water contentmass fraction that is wateranything about purity
Counterionsalt form and its mass sharenet peptide unless stated
Related substanceswhat else was seenwhat was not looked for
CO

the certificate from SSA is the one i use to teach this because it actually has a populated impurity table

if you only read one line on a certificate, read the lot number. if you read two, read the assay

update from 8 months ago: started asking every supplier for water content and about half now include it

the paperwork can be perfect and the vial can still be light. weigh it

ST

a lab that reports "greater than 98%" rather than a number is telling you they did not integrate carefully

PS

i have never seen a research certificate with an endotoxin result on it. not once